[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', 'N')obody's forcing anybody to participate, but this disconnect is why there's only a handful of active posters.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')It will be however very asymmetric in its impacts around the planet. The extinctions caused will also be very asymmetric.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '
')Someone remind me, what is the significance of the number of “hard core peakers” on this board?

[Ibon]

Probably worth mentioning that we are basing the lack of engagement on the topics we discuss on how few members join po.com or related forums. This is potentially misleading because we cannot really assess how many folks out there are actually engaged with these topics but have left digital and social media as a venue to engage in.

I myself have considered many times just abandoning engagement here and in this whole digital ecosystem. It has severe limitations.

[asg70]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')You could put the consequences of climate change in two broad categories. The first being the local consequences caused by rising sea levels, rising temperatures, shifts in weather patterns, more droughts or more rain, etc. etc.

[asg70]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')I for one would join another forum that would be focused on the inquiry of the upcoming consequences of human overshoot....
There are none.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')I for one would join another forum that would be focused on the inquiry of the upcoming consequences of human overshoot....
There are none.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')I for one would join another forum that would be focused on the inquiry of the upcoming consequences of human overshoot....
There are none.

[Plantagenet]

You'll find the hardcore peakers today at places like Forbes and the Wall Street Journal. Check out this recent Forbes article:

the-u-s-accounted-for-98-percent-of-global-oil-production-growth-in-2018

The world actually is at peak oil, except for the US and the increases in new oil production coming from fracking.

And how much longer can the US continue to increase oil production? When will the US peak?

Not much longer, IMHO. The US frackers are in trouble because they're losing money and the new wells aren't as productive as they used to be as they move off the "sweet spots" in the shale. US oil production growth is slowing.

And when US shale oil production stops growing...well.....that will be it. That will be peak oil in the US......and most likely in the world as well.

CHEERS!

[asg70]

That's kind of how doom always is, though, isn't it? Nigh rather than now?

Wake me when the lines form at the gas-stations, not that it will impact me directly since I don't use gasoline anymore.

[KaiserJeep]

The definition of peak oil is the production peak when half the resource is consumed. That took approximately 140 years to occur. YES, I do understand that demand is very much higher today when we burn petroleum in various grades of fuel in various vehicles, than it was when the main usage was for kerosene which replaced whale oil in lighting.

The second half of the resource will not take 14 decades before it is gone. Nor will it abruptly disappear, as thousands of wells slowly deplete and various techniques are used to squeeze out the remaining oil. In fact, when it is going away, there will be variations in supply and demand as price increases and we pull the next process off the shelf and squeeze those wells again.

Perhaps, due to high demand and increasing prices, the second half of the resource will go in 1/3 to 1/2 the time in which we consumed the first half. Meaning that in 40 to 70 years, there will be a real pinch in the supply of petroleum fuels, and they will by then be prohibitively expensive.

I will of course, not be around to see that. Most PO members will not. Sorry, but I can't even seem to work up a decent sense of panic over that future energy shortage.

YES, I do wish that somebody would formulate and execute an ordered plan to deal with a future shortage. But I have seen too many politicians just "kick the can" to be truly optimistic about that.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', 'R')emember that piece not that long ago that said something like 40% (or was it higher) of all wildlife has been wiped off the planet since 1970?

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'P')robably worth mentioning that we are basing the lack of engagement on the topics we discuss on how few members join po.com or related forums. This is potentially misleading because we cannot really assess how many folks out there are actually engaged with these topics but have left digital and social media as a venue to engage in.

I myself have considered many times just abandoning engagement here and in this whole digital ecosystem. It has severe limitations.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '
')
But we're in the VAST minority.

[asg70]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')Once extinct gone forever. 95% species loss still has 5% population remaining to recolonize.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', ' ') There won't be anything left to recolonize on a desertified hothouse earth and an acidified/anoxic ocean.

[KaiserJeep]

It IS an interesting psychological phenomenon. Some minority of people seem to derive a kind of glee when contemplating TEOTWAWKI. Not only that, but in order to satisfy this minority, the end when it arrives REAL SOON must be sudden, savage, and thoroughly deadly, killing everyone.

YES, my own mind has done this to me, a few short years ago. However I recognized the dysfunction and worked my way through it. I realized that (the mathematics of exponentials aside) nothing happens suddenly, everywhere, to everyone, when 7-8B folks are busily engaged in making sure BAU rules the day. Except possibly another giant meteor/comet/etc. impact from space - a truly random event, but so very unlikely at any single moment as to be unsuitable as a FUD generator.

So, to all of you out there, you can pray for that celestial body to strike from deep space - but don't forget to get up, put your pants on, have a cuppa, and go to work. Because after all, all us apes are in this together, our fate is interlinked.

And by some chance one of you FINALLY calls out TEOTWAWKI correctly, feel satisfied in the few hours before you perish. Enjoy the panic. As of yesterday I am so prepared and positioned for the end - I brought home a 1.75L bottle of Maker's Mark bourbon from Costco. With that and the ice in my freezer, I will relish the end. Although, speaking personally, I don't think it's happening soon.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'Y')ou'll find the hardcore peakers today at places like Forbes and the Wall Street Journal. Check out this recent Forbes article:

the-u-s-accounted-for-98-percent-of-global-oil-production-growth-in-2018

The world actually is at peak oil, except for the US and the increases in new oil production coming from fracking.

[asg70]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', ' ') There won't be anything left to recolonize on a desertified hothouse earth and an acidified/anoxic ocean.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', ' ') There won't be anything left to recolonize on a desertified hothouse earth and an acidified/anoxic ocean.