[Plantagenet]

There's a new book out by Michael Wolf claiming that Mueller drew up impeachment documents alleging Trump obstructed as part of his investigation.

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However, the special counsel's office immediately released a statement that no such documents ever existed, i.e. Wolf is lying.

The MSM,meanwhile, is running with the phony claim and ignoring the factual denial from Mueller himself.

We all owe Trump a debt of gratitude for pointing out just how much of what appears in the MSM is "fake news," i.e. lies and spin designed to boost Ds and denigrate Rs.

Now, thanks to the special counsel, more fake news about Trump is exposed.

It is very interesting to see Mueller himself immediately helping Trump sink this latest "fake news" attack.

Cheers!

[Newfie]

I find Muellers press conference today baffling. He held a press conference to clarify that he that his mandate was to investigate an offense he was barred from prosecuting?

Unfortunately I think the Trump Derangement Syndrome is such that this will just feed the fire. Rather than bring this mess to closure it keeps it going. WTF?

Point 2.... he clearly found no Trump collusion. Now Trump knew there was no collusion. So why would he obstruct the investigation? Makes no sense.

Sure Trump is a ham handed big mouth etc. But this stuff just doesn’t square.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'e').

Sure Trump is a ham handed big mouth etc. But this stuff just doesn’t square.

[dissident]

Mueller is a D. Party stooge. He blurted out some crap they wanted to hear today and the party of grade A morons went into a frenzy of impeachment fervor. That's not how it works, you bloody clowns. Mueller didn't produce any evidence and utterly failed to build a case. Whatever he says "off the cuff" is worth less than nothing. Why bother going through any investigative process at all if all that is needed is for some D. Party appointed stooge to just say whatever comes to his mind at the moment?

That the D. Party does not care about even appearing to abide by due process shows you how far the rot has gone.

[jedrider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'I') find Muellers press conference today baffling. He held a press conference to clarify that he that his mandate was to investigate an offense he was barred from prosecuting?

Unfortunately I think the Trump Derangement Syndrome is such that this will just feed the fire. Rather than bring this mess to closure it keeps it going. WTF?

Point 2.... he clearly found no Trump collusion. Now Trump knew there was no collusion. So why would he obstruct the investigation? Makes no sense.

Sure Trump is a ham handed big mouth etc. But this stuff just doesn’t square.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jedrider', ' ') Will Trump actually get impeached? Very unlikely considering that the Senate is Republican Controlled.

[KaiserJeep]

Either that, or they realize it's a waste of time, since Mueller found no criminal offenses. The House impeachment is equivalent to a Grand Jury indictment. Look at the two prior impeachments (Johnson and Clinton). Impeached for actual crimes (Johnson for violating the "Tenure in Office Act", Clinton for perjury and obstruction), but not removed from office, which requires a 2/3rds majority of the Senate to vote for removal, following the Senate trial.

[Cog]

Either Mueller lied or Barr did concerning why Mueller did not pursue obstruction against Trump. Back in April Barr testified that Mueller did not pursue obstruction charges due to insufficient evidence. Mueller yesterday said the reason was DOJ policy prevents an indictment of a sitting president and would be unconstitutional in any event.

Having now muddied the water again, Mueller wants to ride off and not testify about this and other matters. I think he is still angry that Trump would not fall for his obvious perjury trap that others like Flynn fell into.

[Newfie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jedrider', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'I') find Muellers press conference today baffling. He held a press conference to clarify that he that his mandate was to investigate an offense he was barred from prosecuting?

Unfortunately I think the Trump Derangement Syndrome is such that this will just feed the fire. Rather than bring this mess to closure it keeps it going. WTF?

Point 2.... he clearly found no Trump collusion. Now Trump knew there was no collusion. So why would he obstruct the investigation? Makes no sense.

Sure Trump is a ham handed big mouth etc. But this stuff just doesn’t square.

[KaiserJeep]

God knows, I'm no legal expert. However if there is no criminal offense to start with, I don't think you can obstruct justice by hiding what did happen with deceptive rhetoric or testimony. When Andrew Johnson was impeached, he had clearly broken "black letter" Federal law. When Clinton was impeached, he had clearly lied under oath, another actual crime. Democrat Johnson came within 1 vote of office removal in the decade after the Civil War. Clinton was in no jeopardy, as the Senate was pretty evenly split and there was no way to remove him with a 2/3rds majority. The underlying offense of adultery was a civil crime in Arkansas, but the perjury was a criminal offense. If Clinton ever again lives in Arkansas, he can be prosecuted for perjury - hence his new home in NYC.

Trump has no criminal offenses at all, and clearly has the presidential priviledge protecting what portion of the sordid goings on happened after he was president-elect, before he took his oath of office. Nothing to see or do here - I want them to quit wasting money, time, and legal resources on political matters.

[Newfie]

KJ,

Spot on!

[Plantagenet]

Mueller has been a very bad boy..........fraud discovered in Mueller report.

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Volume II of the Mueller report contains quotes of various people engaging in "obstruction of justice." However, these quotes are deceptive as they are taken out of context and edited to remove exculpatory context.

One of the instances of "obstruction of justice" involved a wiretap of a phone call from a Trump Lawyer to Gen Flynn asking for a heads up on the Mueller investigation......BING! That goes down as obstruction of justice. How could a lawyer be so stupid, one might wonder.

And then total total transcript of the phone call gets released, and it turns out to all be rather different then Mueller report says. The Mueller report selectively picked out one phrases that sound like obstruction of justice and hid all the rest of the conversation where the lawyer is very very careful to do everything possible to avoid obstruction of justice.

Hiding exculpatory evidence is fraudulent behavior on the part of Mueller and his team.

The Mueller Report is a fraud. It is a partisan document selectively edited to create the impression that Trump obstructed justice, when nothing could be further from the truth. This was an unnecessary investigation of collusion that never happened. The entire purpose of the investigation was to entrap Trump and the sleazy Ds on the Mueller "team" did their best to excise and hide all exculpatory evidence.

Except the dirty rotten liars couldn't hide everything. They've been busted. The Mueller report is a fraud.

Cheers!

[dissident]

No surprise at all over this finding. The D. Party zealots are no longer abide by the rule of law and due process.

The events of the last 3 years should, under normal conditions, result in the disappearance of the D. Party. The Progressive-Conservative Party that ruled Canada in the late 1980s and early 1990s disappeared due to its gross failures. It never engaged in the criminality we have seen perpetrated by the D. Party leadership. The Canadian right wing re-organized under the roof of the Reform Party and after several years there was a merger with the scraps of the PC Party which was renamed as the Conservative Party. The two-party regime in the USA allows the rotten D. Party to maintain itself forever just by being the gate keeper for the US left. The real US left and not the SJW flakes who worship cultural Trotskyism should restart with a new party that will reflect its interests. The rotten D. Party should not be allowed to sabotage the democratic voice of half of the electorate like they did in the case of Bernie Sanders.

This isn't about what ideology should rule, it is about having politicians and leaders who play by the rules. We are seeing instead a slide into some 3rd world toilet "political standard".

[Plantagenet]

Another lie in the Mueller Report.

A Ukrainian described as having contacts in Russia and used as proof of Trump campaign contacts with Russia actually turns out to be a US informant.

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Its curious how many of the so-called Russian contacts with the Trump campaign are turning out to either be from the DNC funded Fusion GPS or from US intelligence agencies.

[jedrider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', 'G')od knows, I'm no legal expert. However if there is no criminal offense to start with, I don't think you can obstruct justice by hiding what did happen with deceptive rhetoric or testimony.

[Cog]

Maybe you don't show up because there is nothing new to add that you haven't already discussed with Congress. Didn't seem to bother Eric Holder who was held in contempt of Congress and is out there giving speaking engagements. Democrats, if they were intelligent aren't going to like where AG Barr is going to go with this investigation of how this circus got started.

Unlike Obama, Trump never invoked executive privilege a single time during the Mueller investigation, even though he was legally entitled to its protection. Millions of documents were provided and Trump placed no restrictions on what interviews could be done with his staff.

[Revi]

I think Pelosi is right. They should start proceedings with the aim of digging up more dirt about his finances, etc. Not necessarily to impeach yet. If a lot of the nefarious dealings are exposed it will help the Democratic candidate.

[Cog]

So you want to use taxpayers money to win a presidential election? What a great use of our money.

[KaiserJeep]

Revi, it's obvious that you simply wallow in the partisanship and filthy mud-slinging politics. It's a free country, you are welcome to it.

Some of us feel a great distaste with politics today. We would rather see them debate the issues cleanly in a fair forum. Because you know what? There is nobody but NOBODY who can throw mud and feces the way a 900lb gorilla like Trump can. It doesn't matter whether Trump is debating one Democrat or the whole 2-dozen-odd field of Democrats, he will win in a dirty fight.

But I don't want to see that. I want to see the R's and the D's hugging and kissing and then settling down and working.

[Tanada]

Personally I would rather the congress did their jobs of repealing bad legislation and paying the bills that messing around with pointless time wasting political BS that does nothing except reveal just how incompetent they really are.