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Is EROEI Important Pt. 5
Re: Is EROEI Important Pt. 4
by AdamB » Mon 20 May 2019, 17:44:36
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonoil', 'D')oes any one know the number of lbs of cannabis oil produced per acre? Henry Ford ran his prototype Model T Ford on cannabis oil.
Does anyone have a count on the number and size of the bets that Shorty has lost to date?
Plant Thu 27 Jul 2023 "Personally I think the IEA is exactly right when they predict peak oil in the 2020s, especially because it matches my own predictions."
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Re: Is EROEI Important Pt. 5
by eclipse » Tue 21 May 2019, 04:44:18
Kelp grows 30 times faster than any land based plant and truly VAST kelp farms (9% of the world's oceans!) could de-acidify the oceans, stimulate fisheries, increase productivity, feed the world, provide us with liquid fuels, paper, building products — even seaweed concrete — and return the world's CO2 to 350ppm by 2085 if we really get cracking! https://eclipsenow.wordpress.com/saving-the-oceans/
Dr James Hansen recommends breeder reactors that convert nuclear 'waste' into 1000 years of clean energy for America, and can charge all our light vehicles and generate "Blue Crude" for heavy vehicles.
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Re: Is EROEI Important Pt. 5
by shortonoil » Tue 21 May 2019, 07:56:08
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat do you think of this equation (from page 8 of shortys paper):
Is a minus sign missing ? What is the effect if the sign is missing ?
Is a minus sign missing ? What is the effect if the sign is missing ?
A minus sign would represent "negative" entropy. The flow of entropy determines the direction for the arrow of time. Negative entropy would mean that there is a location in the universe where time is running backwards. (theme to the Twilight Zone playing in the background).
Someone is watching far too much TV. Was that the same show where the Egyptians had the pyramids flown in from Alpha Centauri?
For those with some remaining vestige of intellectual curiosity; is a Black Hole an area of the universe where time IS running backward?
Cosmologists break out in hives just thinking about it.
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Re: Is EROEI Important Pt. 5
by shortonoil » Tue 21 May 2019, 08:13:18
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')oes anyone have a count on the number and size of the bets that Shorty has lost to date?
Yes: ZERO
That is mathematically: 1 less than 1 (1 -1 = 0).
Is that equal to 0 times ∞?
Questioner’s brain goes into infinite loop state. Responses remain constant.
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Re: Is EROEI Important Pt. 5
by rockdoc123 » Tue 21 May 2019, 10:15:25
Yes: ZERO
Please explain then the point Kublikhan has made numerous times that you welched on the bet made back in late 2016:
Every time he brings this up you go silent or change the subject and then after a period of time seem to hope everyone has forgotten all about it and you claim you never lost a bet.
Please explain then the point Kublikhan has made numerous times that you welched on the bet made back in late 2016:
Every time he brings this up you go silent or change the subject and then after a period of time seem to hope everyone has forgotten all about it and you claim you never lost a bet.
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Re: Is EROEI Important Pt. 5
by Baduila » Tue 21 May 2019, 12:58:33
Adam,
the second law of thermodynamics is one of the most important laws of physics. It is valid for all processes in the world, mechanical, thermal, biological etc. This law can't be violated, thats impossible. It is the only law of physics determining the direction of time. All other laws are time-invariant and can run in both directions.
The "entropy rate balance" is the mathematical wording for this law; it is the same as the second law.
It is not necessary to mention the second law in a book or paper of reservoir engineering, it is valid without mentioning it. Even if no reservoir engineer ever used it, it is valid for all processes running in the world, like oil production.
It is not necessary to wait for a peer review for people having enough mathematical understanding like me. I'm able to check the equations myself; i propose to each other to do the same.
In this special case, a peer review is only for morons. Too many people exist who are payed by unknowns having the goal to suppress the discussion. Too many people wish BAU will run forever.
Shorty, i asked Adam to find out if he ever has tried to understand the ETP-Model. His answer shows he has never done that, and that he does not feel able to do it himself.
I see, 457 views on my graph have happened, so i add: For the people who do not understand why so much entropy must be generated: It is necessary to change the temperature equilibrium of earth.
the second law of thermodynamics is one of the most important laws of physics. It is valid for all processes in the world, mechanical, thermal, biological etc. This law can't be violated, thats impossible. It is the only law of physics determining the direction of time. All other laws are time-invariant and can run in both directions.
The "entropy rate balance" is the mathematical wording for this law; it is the same as the second law.
It is not necessary to mention the second law in a book or paper of reservoir engineering, it is valid without mentioning it. Even if no reservoir engineer ever used it, it is valid for all processes running in the world, like oil production.
It is not necessary to wait for a peer review for people having enough mathematical understanding like me. I'm able to check the equations myself; i propose to each other to do the same.
In this special case, a peer review is only for morons. Too many people exist who are payed by unknowns having the goal to suppress the discussion. Too many people wish BAU will run forever.
Shorty, i asked Adam to find out if he ever has tried to understand the ETP-Model. His answer shows he has never done that, and that he does not feel able to do it himself.
I see, 457 views on my graph have happened, so i add: For the people who do not understand why so much entropy must be generated: It is necessary to change the temperature equilibrium of earth.
Take care of the second law.- Baduila
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Re: Is EROEI Important Pt. 5
by shortonoil » Tue 21 May 2019, 15:24:59
The Etp Model is a Second Law statement because it is derived from a Second Law statement; "the entropy rate balance equation for control volumes". The Second Law is not peer reviewed because it has no peers; unless you are Stephen William Hawking. The Etp Model can only be contested on its application. Even though it has one weak point, that has not been pointed out by any of its, so called, critics. Therefore we concluded that they were idiots, shrills, or just didn't understand it to begin with. Arguing with any of the above is like fraternizing with Zombies. Your hair starts falling out, and your teeth get loose.
The Etp Model is an engineering report, and they are NOT peer reviewed. They are either used by other engineers, or they aren't. Engineers do not attempt to extend the Laws of Physics; they only use those laws as tools to gain insight into physical phenomena. Phenomena that usually has some economic significance. This one has a massive amount of economic significance. Significance to the point of determining the future of this entire civilization. Since a correlation like this one just does not happen very often in nature, it is worth looking at a little deeper.
If your teeth are getting loose, and your hair has started to fall out you have other problems - so skip it.
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The Etp Model is an engineering report, and they are NOT peer reviewed. They are either used by other engineers, or they aren't. Engineers do not attempt to extend the Laws of Physics; they only use those laws as tools to gain insight into physical phenomena. Phenomena that usually has some economic significance. This one has a massive amount of economic significance. Significance to the point of determining the future of this entire civilization. Since a correlation like this one just does not happen very often in nature, it is worth looking at a little deeper.
If your teeth are getting loose, and your hair has started to fall out you have other problems - so skip it.
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http://www.thehillsgroup.org/
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Re: Is EROEI Important Pt. 5
by AdamB » Tue 21 May 2019, 15:31:06
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonoil', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat do you think of this equation (from page 8 of shortys paper):
Is a minus sign missing ? What is the effect if the sign is missing ?
Is a minus sign missing ? What is the effect if the sign is missing ?
A minus sign would represent "negative" entropy.
Thank you Shorty for that clarification. Now can you tell us which reservoir engineer gave you impression that this equation or any derivative of it has been used in their work, and how?
2+2=4, therefore I deduce that 2 = 4 /2...now I claim the world is going to end because that is the conclusion I wish to draw.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonoil', '
')The flow of entropy determines the direction for the arrow of time. Negative entropy would mean that there is a location in the universe where time is running backwards. (theme to the Twilight Zone playing in the background).
Fortunate indeed that no one needed this equation in determining industry reserves, lifting costs or equipment, gathering system calculations related to standard equipment requirements, thermal gradient effects on pipe, drilling, completion or production operations, or anything else in the history of the industry until you decided it was important to draw the conclusion you wanted to arrive at...even if you used my far simpler to understand equatoin demonstrated above.
And at no time have we discussed science yet, the thing that has already dispatched your paper in the scientific communities version of the gong show.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shorty', '
')Someone is watching far too much TV. Was that the same show where the Egyptians had the pyramids flown in from Alpha Centauri?
Are you speaking for yourself who has made no claims on even getting your paper into review, or is this what you pretend your sock puppets do in their spare time?
