[Cog]

If this is permitted to stand, the Dems will do even worse when they get into power again. When the tools of government like law enforcement are wielded to affect electoral outcomes, we might as well break out the guns and ammo cause that is where this ends up. If your vote counts for nothing, why bother with civility anymore?

[Revi]

I don't know why we can't see the Mueller report instead of the comic book version presented by Barr.

Maybe it doesn't say what he is telling us it says. What are the chances?

[KaiserJeep]

The short version is that the DOJ, FBI, and the other "law enforcement agencies" violated the privacy of Trump, many people working for Trump, members of Trump's family, Hillary Clinton, members of the White House IT staff, etc. etc. when they futilely beat the bushes for two years in a fruitless search for criminal offenses. They went far and above normal bounds, invaded privacy, threatened to prosecute, probably seeded witnesses with the type of information desired - and all was done as D members of Congress (themselves safe from prosecution and investigation BY Congress) threatened to end the careers of those who failed to find impeachable offenses.

I believe the only prosecutable offenses were committed by desperate and frantic D's. That is why every page of the report has names and places blacked out. You will never know, because there is nothing there to hurt Trump, or the whole document would have been leaked. They did this one absolutely correct - the copies of the report are each unique and all are held on "air gapped", non-networked devices. This means they will be able to trace the document to the person who leaked it, and end his career and prosecute and imprison the leaker. Life as they know it will end for anybody who leaks this report.

Do not ever think that the government learned nothing from Wikileaks.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', '
')
I believe the only prosecutable offenses were committed by desperate and frantic D's. That is why every page of the report has names and places blacked out.....

[Newfie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'I') don't know why we can't see the Mueller report instead of the comic book version presented by Barr.

Maybe it doesn't say what he is telling us it says. What are the chances?

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'I') don't know why we can't see the Mueller report instead of the comic book version presented by Barr.

Maybe it doesn't say what he is telling us it says. What are the chances?

[Cog]

@Revi

Instead of relying on CNN, NPR, MSNBC to tell you want to think about the Mueller report, why not read it for yourself and draw your own conclusions? I'll even provide you a link to download it from the DOJ because I know how hard you struggled to find it online

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... LBEaHIrsqc

[Revi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'I') don't know why we can't see the Mueller report instead of the comic book version presented by Barr.

Maybe it doesn't say what he is telling us it says. What are the chances?

[KaiserJeep]

If you consider somebody who is both a millionaire and POTUS to be "the Biggest Loser", then clearly, you have no judgement worth mentioning. I have known such people occasionally in my life. Nobody liked them either.

Face up to it. This disagreeable, arrogant, and offensive person has more wealth than you will ever have, a series of blonde supermodel wives, and many admirers. You have already wasted some portion of two years hating him, time to give that up and get on with your life.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', '
')
Here's a bit from the intro:

"As set forth in detail in this report, the Special Counsel's investigation established that Russia interfere~ [sic] in the 2016 presidential election ...

[jedrider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', '
')
Here's a bit from the intro:

"As set forth in detail in this report, the Special Counsel's investigation established that Russia interfere~ [sic] in the 2016 presidential election ...

[Newfie]

Revi,
I was once a foreman on a jury. Once our work was done we were led back into the lift room and I was asked two question:
Has the jury reached a verdict?
Yes your honor.
Is the jury’s decision guilty or not guilty?
Guilty your honor.

No explanation, no bullshit, no whining or explaining. And that’s what Barr tried to distill from 400 pages into 4. Mueller should have said simply no evidence of collusion and no recommendation to prosecute on obstruction.

We have had this argument before when Comey made his report on Clinton. He made a recommendation to not prosecute after replacing the words “gross negligence” with something else. Clearly Comey and Mueller have taken drastically different approaches to presenting evidence.

One would think that an investigator witch such wide ranging powers, who prosecuted several people for miss-deeds outside the election campaign would have devoted at least some of his report to the genesis of the investigation; the FISA warrants and their connection to the Steel report. Isn’t it fair to ask why?

[Newfie]

Revi,

I thought you might find this but from CNN interesting as it describes who has read the less redacted report, who has not, and why.

[Cog]

The basic concept that a federal investigation is started, based on unverified opposition research paid for by the opposing party, shows how flawed the whole deal was.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'T')he basic concept that a federal investigation is started, based on unverified opposition research paid for by the opposing party, shows how flawed the whole deal was.

[dissident]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'T')he basic concept that a federal investigation is started, based on unverified opposition research paid for by the opposing party, shows how flawed the whole deal was.

[Cog]

Love Trump or hate hin, the thought that Trump was a Russian agent or doing Putin's bidding was a ludicrous proposition from the beginning. I didn't like that Obama was president but I got over the fact he beat McCain and Romney and looked forward to the time he would be president no more. The Dems can't accept the fact Hillary lost because the voters rejected her.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'L')ove Trump or hate hin, the thought that Trump was a Russian agent or doing Putin's bidding was a ludicrous proposition from the beginning. I didn't like that Obama was president but I got over the fact he beat McCain and Romney and looked forward to the time he would be president no more. The Dems can't accept the fact Hillary lost because the voters rejected her.

[dissident]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'L')ove Trump or hate hin, the thought that Trump was a Russian agent or doing Putin's bidding was a ludicrous proposition from the beginning. I didn't like that Obama was president but I got over the fact he beat McCain and Romney and looked forward to the time he would be president no more. The Dems can't accept the fact Hillary lost because the voters rejected her.

[Revi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', 'I')f you consider somebody who is both a millionaire and POTUS to be "the Biggest Loser", then clearly, you have no judgement worth mentioning. I have known such people occasionally in my life. Nobody liked them either.

Face up to it. This disagreeable, arrogant, and offensive person has more wealth than you will ever have, a series of blonde supermodel wives, and many admirers. You have already wasted some portion of two years hating him, time to give that up and get on with your life.