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Tigers vs. Pit bulls

Postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 00:40:31

I was at work today talking about the psychopathic girl oowolf mentioned who liked to semi-strangle cats. The question was, 'can one strangle a cat?' They have twenty deadly weapons on their paws and can inflict tremendous damage. From there the interesting question arose: put an enormous Bengal Tiger in a big cage with 4 Pit Bulls (Staffordshire terriers). Who wins? I say no doubt about it, the Tiger wins quickly. The Tiger may get injured a little, but with one swipe of the Tiger's claws the dogs are dead. Fight wouldn't last sixty seconds. Anyone know if anything like this has been done?
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Postby RockHind » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 00:45:12

I thought the ultimate title match was tigers vs midgets
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Postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 00:54:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RockHind', 'I') thought the ultimate title match was tigers vs midgets
What was up with that? I heard about it. Weren't the midgets seriously mauled? Did they have anything to fight with? I would imagine if you put enough Pit Bulls into the fight that they could take down a tiger. But 4? I doubt it. Guy I was arguing with said sure, 4 could take out a Tiger.
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Postby The_Toecutter » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 01:06:15

I'd like to see a 25 foot 500 pound Anaconda versus a Tiger.
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Postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 01:15:52

Now if its a tiger or lion against grizzly bear we have this:

According to research, the Grizzly will slaughter the Tiger or Lion.

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http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/conflict10.html

Huge grizzly bears:

However, the 1000 lb plus bear is king here and of a much more ferocious disposition. Two large male tigers were found killed by such animals in the year 2000, which is tragic, if natures way.

Tigers will usually avoid such a powerful foe, but eventually these huge animals will run into each other. Often the bear is trying to steal the tiger’s kill. The tiger gives a better account of itself in a bear fight than the lion. The bear does not go in for strangulation or nape biting, but uses his paws to rain blows to the head and shoulders. Possibly this removes any advantage of a mane.

http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/conflict13.html

Grizzly bear pit fights:

The Californians of the late 19th century staged well-documented pit fights with grizzlies and spanish bulls. The grizzlies, using their paw as a club, shattered the unfortunate bull’s skull or shoulder bones so easily that the betting became poor.

Eventually, and at considerable cost, African lions were brought in to raise the stakes. The most fierce of the adult males was sent in whilst the grizzly was already waiting in the pits. The lion was known for bravely charging straight in and looked good for the money, but the grizzly killed a male lion almost as easily as he’d killed the bull.

The Californians never understood why. We now know that it was enormously strong bone density meeting a low density skull. At a range of 4 feet the blow crashed in before the lion could apply the wind pipe lock, which is lion and tiger learnt behaviour for taking down prey animals.

The ferocity of this animal easily matches that of an unsettled African lion.

http://wiw.org/~jess/archives/2003/12/0 ... sus-tiger/
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Postby Specop_007 » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 01:19:42

You know what a Grizzly wont beat?
Spec with a 45-70.

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Postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 01:26:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Toecutter', 'I')'d like to see a 25 foot 500 pound Anaconda versus a Tiger.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '4').-I saw in a National Geographic issue a tiger stealing the carcass of a sambar from the crocodiles. And in a Survival Anglia film a tigress that killed a python, and a pic of a jaguar that killed a big anaconda. I´ve read about big snakes; even very big snakes can´t eat animals above 70kg.
this from: http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/conflict14.html Lot of interesting stuff about tigers vs. lions, but so far nothing about lion or tiger vs. dog pack.
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Postby Carrie » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 01:28:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RockHind', 'I') thought the ultimate title match was tigers vs midgets
What was up with that? I heard about it. Weren't the midgets seriously mauled? Did they have anything to fight with? I would imagine if you put enough Pit Bulls into the fight that they could take down a tiger. But 4? I doubt it. Guy I was arguing with said sure, 4 could take out a Tiger.


It actually turned out to be a hoax (thank god!) Here's the story behind it:
http://lionvs40midgets.uk-directory.com/

This reminds me of a really funny thread a couple years ago in another forum about who would win in a match between a silverback gorilla and a walrus. :lol:
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Postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 01:36:59

Thanks Carrie. Interesting that it was not meant to make out onto a wide audience but did anyway, so the guy (after thinking OMG what have I done?!) had to put out a disclaimer.
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Postby Vexed » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 01:38:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t actually turned out to be a hoax (thank god!) Here's the story behind it:
http://lionvs40midgets.uk-directory.com/


Thanks Carrie. I bet 99% of folks still believe the original story. I know I did until you provided the link.

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Against 4 pitbulls, I think the tiger would win, but only cause I'm a cat person. :-D
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Postby The_Toecutter » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 01:59:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '4').-I saw in a National Geographic issue a tiger stealing the carcass of a sambar from the crocodiles. And in a Survival Anglia film a tigress that killed a python, and a pic of a jaguar that killed a big anaconda. I´ve read about big snakes; even very big snakes can´t eat animals above 70kg.


The snake may not be able to EAT much above 70 kg, but that doesn't mean it couldn't kill anything above 70 kg. I've read of anacondas that actually have killed and attempted to eat Jaguars, and anacondas that have been bold enough to attack cattle farms.

Animal planet aired an episode of their show Animal Face Off called Anaconda vs. Jaguar. Apparantly, the anaconda reigned supreme.

http://www.tv.com/animal-faceoff/anaconda-vs.-jaguar/episode/324761/summary.html

I'd love to see one versus a much sturdier tiger or a lion.

Wouldn't mind having one for a pet, either.
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Postby Carrie » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 02:19:25

Uh-oh... maybe we ARE turning into the Roman Empire! :? :wink:
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Postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 02:36:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carrie', 'U')h-oh... maybe we ARE turning into the Roman Empire! :? :wink:
I thought about how we could slowly make our way back to gladiator type fighting for entertainment where the fights are to the death. It might go something like this. More of these ultimate fighting shows on cable and in places like Las Vegas (such as the ones our ex-poster BiGG told of going to). The ratings favor the really bloody ones and a few deaths start happening here and there. The shows don't get banned as its understood to be an unfortunate accidental result of the sport. Gradually as time goes by, the frequency of deaths rises and people just start to get used to it. But the culture has become hardened to it. Sort of a slippery-slope process results in an acceptance of the common 'accidents'. Eventually it just becomes understood that a high death rate in these things is here to stay. People get disappointed if they pay big bucks to go and there isn't a death in the ring. At some point the result of this is that they take off the fig leaf of 'accident' and they go Roman.
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Postby Specop_007 » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 02:41:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carrie', 'U')h-oh... maybe we ARE turning into the Roman Empire! :? :wink:
I thought about how we could slowly make our way back to gladiator type fighting for entertainment where the fights are to the death. It might go something like this. More of these ultimate fighting shows on cable and in places like Las Vegas (such as the ones our ex-poster BiGG told of going to). The ratings favor the really bloody ones and a few deaths start happening here and there. The shows don't get banned as its understood to be an unfortunate accidental result of the sport. Gradually as time goes by, the frequency of deaths rises and people just start to get used to it. But the culture has become hardened to it. Sort of a slippery-slope process results in an acceptance of the common 'accidents'. Eventually it just becomes understood that a high death rate in these things is here to stay. People get disappointed if they pay big bucks to go and there isn't a death in the ring. At some point the result of this is that they take off the fig leaf of 'accident' and they go Roman.


That would be cool.
Heres hopin.
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Postby Falconoffury » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 02:49:19

I think 40 midgets trained and conditioned in a few martial arts would win. A few of them could probably grab the lion's rear legs and break them while the lion is busy with other midgets from the front. If it's 40 midgets of average strength and no martial arts training, then I have to give it to the lion. The average person is much weaker than a highly trained person.
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Postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 02:49:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '
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That would be cool.
Heres hopin.
In the final analysis, if people want it, they'll get it. The old fashioned fuddy duddies resist but then shrug their shoulders and say something like: 'screw it, it was bound to happen sooner or later anyway. Besides, there's big bucks in it'. Then comes the restictions: no firearms, just hand-held weapons of ancient design such as maces, chains, and swords and spears. Then they rig up some island with cameras and you've got a whole new slant to 'Survivor'! :lol:
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Postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 03:17:12

How about this, specop and Carrie: suppose the PTB decide that we're up against it and there's too much pacifism in the population. Young people need to be shaped in a war-like atmophere so they make good soldiers. What better way than to raise them with gladiator entertainment. Not the fantasy video game violence, but real violence fed to them by the media that says to them, 'rage is good! violence is good! killing is the highest calling and young man, you'll be rewarded for cultivating such feelings.' Changes can happen like that and may very well happen before long. Of course there is a lot of violence in the media now, but its make believe.
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Re: Tigers vs. Pit bulls

Postby PenultimateManStanding » Mon 27 Mar 2006, 15:57:14

yeah, this is the one. "We, who are about to die, salute you!"
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Re: Tigers vs. Pit bulls

Postby seahorse2 » Mon 27 Mar 2006, 16:41:30

Wasn't the movie "Running Man" with Arnold based on the plot line that in future society there will be a revival of essentially the Roman Coliseum? Same with the old movie and book "Rollerball?"
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Re: Tigers vs. Pit bulls

Postby Falconoffury » Tue 28 Mar 2006, 00:08:00

I saw the new Rollerball movie, but it wasn't great. Nice to see a riot against a corrupt government at the end, as always.
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