Lorenzo, I warn you! No more US-bashing!
Yes so what, they have their own version of CNN. Are they not allowed to have their own version or what? I see you think it must be like in the Soviet Union, one brand for everything from shoes to telly-programs. It's called free enterprise, man! Choice! Freedom!
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We would call it bribing
by lorenzo » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 08:02:44
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')I think you are right in many ways that Europes politics is corrupted just as much, only in another way, it would be done behind the curtains.
But that's probably the thing why the Chevron-deal is so outrageous to us, because it's done so openly! You lay money on the table and get what you want! That's acceptable in a supermarket for us, but not in a government which is elected by the people! That's how we see it, what's your point of view?
')I think you are right in many ways that Europes politics is corrupted just as much, only in another way, it would be done behind the curtains.
But that's probably the thing why the Chevron-deal is so outrageous to us, because it's done so openly! You lay money on the table and get what you want! That's acceptable in a supermarket for us, but not in a government which is elected by the people! That's how we see it, what's your point of view?
Exactly. Let's open another thread about corruption in Europe, fine with me.
Here, I really just wanted to know how Americans view their system and why they apparently think it's normal. As I said, it's an institutionalized practise: you are allowed to give lawmakers and political representatives money, to have them support your case. In Europe, this would be considered to be totally illegal.
Maybe there are advantages to the American system, maybe not. I just fell off my chair yesterday, when I heard this on CNN. There were several interviews about this topic, where analysts made this same comparison.
So again: what do you, as an American think of this system?
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by Specop_007 » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 08:06:05
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So again: what do you, as an American think of this system?
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So again: what do you, as an American think of this system?
I think its great to protect our interests.
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by lorenzo » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 08:06:07
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Free', 'L')orenzo, I warn you! No more US-bashing!
Yes so what, they have their own version of CNN. Are they not allowed to have their own version or what?
Yes so what, they have their own version of CNN. Are they not allowed to have their own version or what?
I didn't say they are not allowed to have their own version. All I said is that CNN has decided to make two different versions of itself: one for Americans, and one for an international audience. Just an observation.
That's all. It's not America bashing! It's a simple observation!!!
Over here, the sun shines. I just looked out of my window and I see it!!
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by Free » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 08:07:39
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Again....Pot meet kettle.
You know how often the UN tries to dictate US policy? You know how often the UN pulls these exact same scams?
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Again....Pot meet kettle.
You know how often the UN tries to dictate US policy? You know how often the UN pulls these exact same scams?
No please tell me, how often? What did the UN force upon the US? The Kyoto protocol? The international ban of antipersonnel mines? The international ban of child-soldiers? The attack on Iraq?
As for the rest of your post I am a bit confused since I don't know what to take seriously.... I think I need another beer...
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(I fully agree with your assessment though: criminals wearing a diving suit are still criminals; the offspring of criminals wearing a diving suit are still the offspring of criminals.)
