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Civilization: Things I’ll Miss

Postby DomusAlbion » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 20:21:37

I go to bed and rise early. I usually go to bed a little after 8PM and read for an hour.

Last night I was settling down to Simmon’s book “Twilight in the Desert”; rather dry and boring BTW, when I hear music floating on the night air. It was the local symphony giving a concert in the park. Some Mozart (“A Little Night Music”, how predictable) but it pulled me out of bed and to the park.
There was some beautiful music played. A soprano and alto sang Offenbach's Barcarole from Tales of Hoffman. Heaven on Earth! I’ll be in the country soon; sure I’ll have my CDs and stereo but there’s nothing like live music. I like most music but there's something very special about the great classics; they reflect the genius and better angels of Western Civilization.

I’ll miss that. :cry:
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Postby bruss01 » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 20:43:40

On the other hand, with no mass media to saturate our awareness, no easy transportation to keep us gadding madly about, and with having some time on our hands during winter and summer lulls (spring and fall will busy our hands with planting and harvesting) we may find that people have time to learn and practice music again. We may not all be concert material, but we can probably all learn to carry a tune using simple homemade instruments.
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Postby Free » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 21:23:32

I think bruss is right, maybe we will rather see an increase in performing music and generally art, than a decrease. After all, what to do with no telly and computer on long winter evenings?

Remember that many pieces of art have been created by the most troubled persons and peoples.

Where there is the worst hardship, there is also the biggest desire for beauty.
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Postby Ludi » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 21:48:14

When the German settlers moved to this part of Texas in the 1840s, they brought their musical instruments and some books. They lived in crude log cabins but they had music and literature.

Which reminds me, I should stock up on hammer dulcimer strings. :-D



And don't forget, these folks ("cavemen") 30,000 years ago weren't "civilized" but they had art, they may have invented it! -

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Postby PlanComplete » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 21:51:14

A nice harvest barn dance, a wedding dance some old fashion folk music. Ahh they will be here still. As for instruments, they will still be around the ones that are not forged into a farming device that is.

We will not revert back to cavemen even at the worst.
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Postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 21:56:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Free', '
')Remember that many pieces of art have been created by the most troubled persons and peoples.

Where there is the worst hardship, there is also the biggest desire for beauty.
The great philosopher and social commentator Eric Hoffer:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')here is perhaps no better way of measuring the natural endowment of a soul than by its ability to transmute dissatisfaction into a creative impulse. The genuine artist is as much a dissatisfied person as the revolutionary, yet how diametrically opposed are the products each distills from his dissatisfaction.
- Eric Hoffer
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Postby Geology_Guy » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 23:29:02

I found Simmons book fascinating, but then I read geology textbooks and encyclopedias for fun.....
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Postby killJOY » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 23:35:28

Funny to read this now!

I just got off the screen porch after playing old time music with friends for three hours.
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Postby DomusAlbion » Fri 22 Jul 2005, 01:34:08

OK guys. I get it and I agree. I'm a player as well (guitar and keyboard) as well as a singer and I look forward to long winter nights when I can again concentrate on those instruments and also learn the fiddle.

However, you can't recreate the beauty of Bach (though I play a few of the cello suites on the guitar) or Beethoven with your run of the mill front porch band.
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Postby I_Like_Plants » Fri 22 Jul 2005, 05:50:40

Classical music was all invented pre-oil, and most of it pre-coal. And peak oil will force us to do like our ancestors, no more big screen tv's, much more string, wind, etc quartets, concerts, bands, orchestras, etc. That's how it was done 150+ years ago, music was something you DID.
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Re: Civilization: Things I’ll Miss

Postby EdF » Fri 22 Jul 2005, 14:43:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DomusAlbion', '.').. I like most music but there's something very special about the great classics; they reflect the genius and better angels of Western Civilization.

I’ll miss that. :cry:


Even without confining it to western classical, it's the music I'll most miss.

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Postby Jake_old » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 08:15:44

The ease of which we can get hold of very good food.

Last night I had tray baked dover sole with Garlic, butter and Lemon, I don't live anywhere near the sea. Lovely bottle of Chablis with it, god i love food.

Popping into town later to see if we can get Oysters and skate wings. I still think food will be good but the choice will be vastly limited :x

All veg comes from the Garden at the mo so no probs there :)

Driving around in the sunshine ogling sexy ladies in skimpy clothes. Devastating.
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Postby Free » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 08:17:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedJake', '
')Driving around in the sunshine ogling sexy ladies in skimpy clothes. Devastating.


What is ogling? The same as in Googling? But that's probably not what you ment?
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Postby Jake_old » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 08:21:57

probably spelt it wrong

Gawping, staring you know imaginig stuff :roll:
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Postby Free » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 08:24:20

Wow, sorry but you must be really hard up if you will miss it just staring at ladies.

Just joking, i will miss it as well, but nothing against staring at sexy ladies at the bond fire in bear fur-clothes!
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Postby Jake_old » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 08:34:18

lol, there is an upside then.

I have a nightmare vision of all those products which keep women pert and smooth disappearing overnight, and the results? :shock:
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Postby DomusAlbion » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 09:22:32

ogle
vti (past o·gled, past participle o·gled, present participle o·gling, 3rd person present singular o·gles)

to stare at somebody desirously: to look at somebody for sexual enjoyment or as a way of showing sexual interest

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-- Albert Bartlett

"It will be a dark time. But for those who survive, I suspect it will be rather exciting."
-- James Lovelock
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Postby Free » Sat 23 Jul 2005, 09:38:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DomusAlbion', '
')ogle
vti (past o·gled, past participle o·gled, present participle o·gling, 3rd person present singular o·gles)

to stare at somebody desirously: to look at somebody for sexual enjoyment or as a way of showing sexual interest

Microsoft® Encarta® Reference Library 2004. © 1993-2003 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Thank you very much, google is obviously your friend not mine!
By the way, Go-ogle! Isn't "sex" or "porn" the most searched word? Anyway, interesting, probably all belongs somehow together, "Goggles" as well. German: "Augen" (eyes) French: "Les Yeux" etc....

(Edit: Ok I should stop doing that, it's on the verge of spamming and hijacking the thread, sorry! Things I will miss: Talk about how peak oil might turn out...)
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