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Unread postby frankthetank » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 10:00:04

Looks like all we need is a signature from Mr. Bush!

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Unread postby FoxV » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 12:22:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'a')dditional energy savings at the equivalent of 100,000 barrels of oil a day, or about half of 1 percent of the nation's daily oil consumption.

I question this figure and suspect that actual number is closer to 0 barrles of oil saved. For those of us in the North, we're already turning on our lights at 5pm in October, extending this till November changes nothing

but even if that figure is true it would only save that amount of oil during the two months being extended so that one half of one percent now drops to one tenth of one percent of the yearly oil consumption.

meanwhile fuel efficiency standards of SUVs remain untouched.

I can't understand why people think we won't have a hard crash when our leaders are coming up with such bone head solutions
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Unread postby BigBear » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 13:43:00

So you have your lights on longer in the morning and abit less in the evening--do they believe we all sleep in till the sun is up and bright--this one half-assed--dumb --meaningless pieces of legislation that has come down from the Almighty Stupid in along time--and already Canada is saying it will have to follow suit. 8O 8O
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Unread postby Daculling » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 14:52:02

Uhmmm, all of our information system are setup to take daylight savings into account in the management of they're system clocks. Has anyone thought of how we fix that in a matter of months? Or can Y2K like problems arise from this?
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Unread postby SchroedingersCat » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 14:58:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Daculling', 'U')hmmm, all of our information system are setup to take daylight savings into account in the management of they're system clocks. Has anyone thought of how we fix that in a matter of months? Or can Y2K like problems arise from this?


Can't be done. Too many different systems. Some things like VCRs, TVs, etc. have the DST change hard coded. Won't be a Y2K problem but it will cost $$$ in overtime and lost productivity while the techies put things right.
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Unread postby duke3522 » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 18:05:46

Here in Indiana we opted out of DST back in the late 1960’s. The farmers didn’t like losing that hour of daylight in the mornings. But this year the state legislature voted to put us back on DST. The bill was passed because the PTB promised that most of the state would be placed on CST with Chicago. But the business leaders in Indianapolis pulled a bait and switch so almost the entire state will be on EST.

Fortunately for me my kid is almost 19, but the folks with small children will have to be putting their kids to bed while it is still light out. Next year around the solstice it won’t be getting dark here until about 10:45pm. And since our school system is preparing to go to a year around schedule getting the kids to bed at a decent hour is going to be a problem.

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PS Also say goodbye to our last few Drive-in movies. What a tragedy!! :(
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Unread postby lawnchair » Thu 21 Jul 2005, 19:02:21

I find it fascinating that DST works. It works because we are conditioned to a nutty locked cycle.

We say, "school always starts at 8h. It has always started at 8". This ignores when daylight is and isn't.

We say, "the drive-in-movie must start at 21h because people must be home by (theoretical) midnight", rather than, "the drive-in show starts 45 minutes after sunset".

I appreciate time more on an isolated farm, or on a cross-country bike tour, or a multiday canoe. At an equinox, you get 12 hours of sunlight. That is invariable. If you waste the first three of those sleeping (because you follow the mandate that you must stay awake five hours after the sun sets), you are a slave to your wristwatch.

Growing up, my family would sometimes set our clock to reflect "honest-to-god noon" for our longitude (that even varies through the year compared to clock-time noon, but you can come up with an average 'real time' for your longitude). Most people today are far removed from noon being the exact middle of the day, and midnight the exact middle of the night.

It seems to me (and I've read concurring studies) that the average westerner is critically sleep-deprived. Doing anything useful? Not that I can tell... just following the rules that say, "must stay up for TV till midnight, must get up by 6 to commute". I think it keeps people weak, whiny, and irritable. When I bike-tour, I get 10-11 hours of sleep a night, and it really makes you happier, stronger, and healthier.

(I think this is my hundredth post. I just want to acknowledge this fine site, even if it does keep me up after dark too often :) )
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