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Water crisis: Just a management problem?

Unread postby Zardoz » Thu 17 Aug 2006, 20:59:02

These people must know what they're talking about:

Billions face water shortages, crisis looms -agency

They say it isn't a matter of water not being available, it's what we're doing with it.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '.')..Billions of people in Asia and Africa already face water shortages because of poor water management.

"We will not run out of bottled water any time soon but some countries have already run out of water to produce their own food."

...water scarcity in Asia and Australia affected about 1.5 billion people and was caused by over-allocating water from rivers, while scarcity in Africa was caused by a lack of infrastructure to get the water to the people who need it.

"The water is there, the rainfall is there, but the infrastructure isn't there."


That doesn't seem to jibe with what we've been hearing. I'm puzzled.
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Re: Water crisis: Just a management problem?

Unread postby rwwff » Thu 17 Aug 2006, 21:03:53

California's problems are not the same as everyone elses. Yall have way to many people and way to little precipitation. Even in "drought" I get more rain than falls in most parts of California.

Most places have water problems, just as the article notes, because the water is poorly managed or not managed at all.
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Re: Water crisis: Just a management problem?

Unread postby rogerhb » Thu 17 Aug 2006, 21:21:13

It's not a water shortage, it's a people surfeit.
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Re: Water crisis: Just a management problem?

Unread postby ClubOfRomeII » Thu 17 Aug 2006, 21:32:45

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')They say it isn't a matter of water not being available, it's what we're doing with it.



Could it be...Peak Water?
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Re: Water crisis: Just a management problem?

Unread postby Zardoz » Thu 17 Aug 2006, 21:34:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', '.')..Most places have water problems, just as the article notes, because the water is poorly managed or not managed at all.


Well, maybe, but:

U.S. drought

Amazon rainforest 'could become a desert'

East Africa drought

China drought

China drought

UK drought

See what I mean? With all this, their statement about "plenty of water" seems odd.
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Re: Water crisis: Just a management problem?

Unread postby RonMN » Thu 17 Aug 2006, 22:45:43

Some places flood while other places are in drought conditions...it's been the same for a million years. The only difference is we've become dependant on cheap oil to move that water...well (?) :(

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Re: Water crisis: Just a management problem?

Unread postby ritter » Fri 18 Aug 2006, 14:02:46

It will really be fun times when the reservoirs on the Colorado River silt up. If my recollection is correct, they were anticipated to last around 500 years at the time they were constructed but that siltation would result in major renovations being required in as little as 100 years. So we’ve got what, another 50 years? Keep on building in the desert boys.... Plenty of water for all.
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Re: Water crisis: Just a management problem?

Unread postby Zardoz » Fri 18 Aug 2006, 14:14:11

Forgot this one in the list I posted above:

Drought-stricken Europe verging on 'natural disaster'

Do we detect a trend here? I'm not calling BS on what the IWMI people are saying, but it's almost like they aren't aware of all these ongoing droughts.

It just seems a little weird.
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Re: Water crisis: Just a management problem?

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 23 Aug 2006, 08:48:46

Water problems here in Central Texas are mainly caused by long term misuse of water resources, especially the watershed, which has been badly damaged. We have amazing aquifers here, both slow and rapid recharge, capable of providing water pretty much forever if managed carefully. But folks continue to overgraze the range, plant St Augustine grass which requires irrigation, and gnerally behave in a dopey and shortsighted manner. Our local water district doesn't even recognise the importance of the watershed in providing water to the aquifer - I read their management plan and it's clear they're totally clueless. But I'm trying to get a range management group involved in working with the water district, and they seem enthusiastic, so maybe something can be done to change practices (fat chance I know, but one does what one can).
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Re: Water crisis: Just a management problem?

Unread postby nth » Wed 23 Aug 2006, 19:57:08

US water hit Peak back in the 1980's I believe.
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Water Scarcity: India’s Silent Crisis

Unread postby AdamB » Sun 18 Mar 2018, 00:04:41

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As Cape Town inches towards ‘Zero Hour’ set for July 15, 2018, the real threat of water scarcity is finally hitting millions of people worldwide. For on that day, the South African city’s 3.78 million citizens — rich and poor, young and old, men and women — will be forced to queue up with their jerry cans at public outlets for their quota of 25 litres of water per day. Who knew things would come to such a sorry pass for the rich and beautiful metropolis, ironically lapped by the aquamarine waters of the Atlantic and Indian Oceans? An ominous cocktail of deficient rainfall, devastating droughts and poor planning, say conservationists, have made Cape Town the first major city to run out of fresh water. By 2040, there will be no drinking water in almost all of India. The issue of water scarcity


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Re: Water Scarcity: India’s Silent Crisis

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Sun 18 Mar 2018, 12:47:14

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As Cape Town inches towards ‘Zero Hour’ set for July 15, 2018, the real threat of water scarcity is finally hitting millions of people worldwide.


Water Scarcity: India’s Silent Crisis

I would argue that we foolishly squander a large proportion of resources of various types. Using resources responsibly would often require a lot of planning, a lot of doing without much (relative scarcity), a lot of regulation for pollution and other social costs, etc.

The consequences of that would be MUCH HIGHER expenses (and a meaningfully lower standard of living re total resource consumption), and almost certainly a lot less people.

Humans simply appear basically incapable of making such sacrifices until/unless drastic negative consequences are IN THEIR FACE and very clear to almost everyone. By then of course, fixing the problem may no longer be tenable, at least in the short to medium term.

How many Cape Town fiascos for various resources, and how frequently, would it take to get enough people to wake up to effect real change in behavior/attitude? Sadly, with AGW, we may "get" to find out in the coming decades.
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Is Turning Off The Tap Takes To Save Water?

Unread postby AdamB » Sat 24 Mar 2018, 20:59:21

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According to the United Nations Water Development Report 2016, one of the most serious problems humanity is facing today is the scarcity of portable and clean water for drinking and domestic use. This crisis is feared to worsen dramatically in the coming decade. The World Bank's report on India says that while the development of sustainable, safe, usable water is a global challenge, it's an acute matter in India because of its high population density, time and space variability of rainfall and increasing contamination of available groundwater resources. It is estimated that by 2030, India's demand for water will exceed all the available sources of supply. As a country, India holds 16% of the world's population while owning only 4% of the world's water resources. Although several initiatives have been undertaken to deal with the water crisis looming ahead of India,


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