[Permanently_Baffled]

Ok guys here is the scenario:

Society is beginning to settle down after the peak oil disaster. Everyone is suddenly enlightened to the fact that if they want to make lives easier for themselves then populations must be controlled. Now given that rubbers are not going to be available, the drug companies are not around to make the 'pill', and there are no doctors to tie up your tubes(ouch!) it would seem there are only these options:
1) Celibacy
2) Homosexuality
3) bashing your bishop
4) Improvised rubbers from pigs intestines or something

Any other ideas?

PB

[jato]

Text deleted. I would have to choose #1.

[Cool Hand Linc]

LOL OMG! There are a few organizations that believe if you just kill yourself you will help the world. See Onyered, He is a poster here and wants to be the keeper of a book to list all the caring people who give their lives. http://www.oilcrash.com/vhemt.htm

If you are gone from this world. Then you don't use energy or have babies.
Peak oil? =Birth control? =Peak oil? I think I am becoming baffled as well! Peak oil doesn't really equal birth control does it?

[nero]

Then there are the natural forms of birth control

the rythm method, sex without penetration of the vagina, coitus interuptus

All you want to do is reduce the birth rate, with these sorts of methods I bet you can moderate the birth rate to any extent necessary. Of course if there is no modern medicine you may have the opposite problem (not enough children).

[smiley]

Diaphragms and copper releasing intrauterine devices (IUD's). Especially the latter are very simple to construct and extremely efficient.

[Aaron]

pig intestine was used in some places prior to rubber products...

<ick>

[Permanently_Baffled]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smiley', 'D')iaphragms and copper releasing intrauterine devices (IUD's). Especially the latter are very simple to construct and extremely efficient.

[KiddieKorral]

Plant a rubber tree?

[pea-jay]

Wait a sec...aren't rubbers made from latex, the original non-petroleum rubber?

Or maybe I am confused.

In any case I think that we will always be able to recycle petroleum based products. Remember oil will NEVER EVER COMPLETELY vanish, just cease to be an energy source. Just like with aluminum and copper, oil derived products can continued to be recylceld

[entropyfails]

Fertility rates have a direct link to the availability of food supply. If we don’t have condoms because of some sort of huge crash, then we won’t have the food to worry about fertility and any child you have after that crash will be a blessing.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/faculty/RoseFrisch.html

---
EntropyFails

[Cool Hand Linc]

Use of timing is a method of preventing pregnancy. Rhythm method? Ask a woman they know about this.

[Soft_Landing]

Doctors have a very scientific word for couples that use the rhythm method. Parents.

[RIPSmithianEconomics]

Yet another barrier towards the loss of my virginity. Damn it, to be born 10 years earlier...

[The_Virginian]

THE BILLINGS OVULATION METHOD OF BIRTH CONTROL

http://www.doctoryourself.com/fertility.html

"The Billings Method is named after Drs. John and Evelyn Billings of Melbourne, Australia. They have been instrumental in developing, testing and promoting this natural birth control method since the early 1950's. It is also known as the Ovulation Method or the Mucus Method. It is not the Rhythm Method. In fact, the reason the Billingses began their investigation of natural birth control in the first place is because the Rhythm Method was not reliable..."

[gg3]

Three things that weren't mentioned, and I'm quite serious about these:

Adult content deleted., sequentially or simultaneously.

Also, mutual simultaneous manual stimulation of the erogenous zones while maintaining the conventional face-to-face arrangement. With the aid of appropriate lotions & potions of course. Heck, four things: add masturbation to the mix. The safest sex of all for those who are not in lifelong partnerships.

Re. condoms made from animal products: they do not block the transmission of diseases! Danger, danger, danger!

The next Pope could single-handedly prevent or precipitate a massive die-off merely by changing or failing to change, church doctrine on contraception. The world will judge the church accordingly.

As for me, I'm already gay, have been since day one, and am eagerly awaiting a uniform right to legal monogamy.

[PhilBiker]

The Billings method is part of the foundation of real natural family planning without drugs and devices. Here's a good book for women and couples. Aka NFP it is also taught by some religions who feel that chemicals and devices are immoral. Do not confuse this sophisticated and effective system with the "rhythm method" which hasn't been taught in 30 years.

The post-peak problem with this method is:
1) It won't matter because we'll all be starving anyway
2) It requires very exacting temperature measurements, I don't know how many basal thermometers will be functioning post-peak.
3) It requires abstinence during fertile times in a woman's cycle. Are people willing to abstain for a couple weeks?

[The_Virginian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hree things that weren't mentioned, and I'm quite serious about these:

Fellatio and cunnilingus, sequentially or simultaneously.

Also, mutual simultaneous manual stimulation of the erogenous zones while maintaining the conventional face-to-face arrangement. With the aid of appropriate lotions & potions of course

[Ayoob]

Cotton soaked in lemon juice inserted into the vagina will act as a contraceptive with the added bonus of making the vagina hostile to HIV. Interesting, no?

Also, women might be able to get their hands on a diaphragm, which should help matters. Between the lemon juice and a diaphragm, I'd be pretty confident.

[Terran]

One good contracetive from what I heard from the book is this tree called Neem oil. That plus a diaphragm should do the trick.

I'm not too sure about lemon juice, citric acid has a PH of 4, it is acidic, and will burn. Ever gotten lemon juice in your eyes? yes you can feel the pain.

As for as rubber goes, rubber trees only grow in hot and humid climate, most rubber trees are found in Southeast Asia. North America dose not provide the suitable climate for growing trees.

During the Second World War, Japan seized the rubber plantation in southeast asia, mainly the colonies controlled by the Dutch called Dutch Indies, today it's Indonesia. That brought on the discovery of synthetic rubber, petroleum based.

Today rubber plantation cannot make up the amount of rubber used. Back before 1940 we used alot less rubber, and there was a much lower population. Hopefully other countries can increase cultivation of natural rubber although unlikely.

I had heard about certain yams in cultures were used as contraceptives, however farther research is needed.

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('patrickjford', 'W')ait a sec...aren't rubbers made from latex, the original non-petroleum rubber?