by vtsnowedin » Mon 12 Feb 2018, 23:00:54
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'N')one of that matters Plant. All that matters is that Trump hurts people's feelings and therefore must be impeached.
Yet, despite all the wailing and empty predicting from the left, I keep waiting to see actual EVIDENCE that Trump deserves to be impeached.
If I see actual EVIDENCE that he had a meaningful, deliberate part in sabataging the election results so he could win, I'll be all for impeaching him.
If not, I'll be remembering how the left rallied around HRC during cattlefuturesgate, when she blatantly cheated to make money she didn't earn or deserve (in the tradition of the far left, of course), even though the odds of that sequence of trades occurring has been calculated at over a trillion to one. Yeah, I believe EVERYTHING she says about that.

If the Democrats take control of the house any high crime or misdemeanor will do. Bribery in any country Trump has built a hotel in with union labor and local corruption will fill the bill as will money laundering for himself or aiding a Russian kleptocrate. And they are hot on finding a woman to testify that he sexually assaulted her any time in the last thirty years.
The fact that Hillary was and is far worse will have no bearing on the issue.
by Tanada » Tue 13 Feb 2018, 09:54:42
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EdwinSm', 'A')s the old British saying goes "A penny for your thoughts", so what do people think about Pence {that is one of the plural forms for penny} as a (possible) President?
I have heard only a little about him, so I would be interested in what people here think. There seems people here from different parts of the American political spectrum so there could be quite a range of feelings!
Pence was governor of the state bordering us to the west and did a good job operating the political levers to get stuff done in his state.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Alfred Tennyson', 'W')e are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
by asg70 » Tue 13 Feb 2018, 10:24:56
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
')The fact that Hillary was and is far worse will have no bearing on the issue.
Damn right, because Trump's president and not Hillary. The stakes just aren't the same. And if Trump doesn't want the heat he maybe shouldn't have committed any high crimes and misdemeanors in the first place. This sort of thinly veiled accusation of lopsided justice should be reserved for people who aren't as crooked as Trump.
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HALL OF SHAME:
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by GHung » Tue 13 Feb 2018, 10:33:16
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EdwinSm', 'A')s the old British saying goes "A penny for your thoughts", so what do people think about Pence {that is one of the plural forms for penny} as a (possible) President?
I have heard only a little about him, so I would be interested in what people here think. There seems people here from different parts of the American political spectrum so there could be quite a range of feelings!
Pence was governor of the state bordering us to the west and did a good job operating the political levers to get stuff done in his state.
Did he?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')His Republican predecessor, former Gov. Mitch Daniels, had already done much of the heavy lifting on tax reform and business development in his eight years as governor, leaving Pence little to accomplish in office aside from not making a mess of things.
That was a feat Pence almost achieved until April 2015, when he found himself at the center of a national firestorm sparked by his signing into law the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which aimed to prevent "substantially burdening" the practice of a person's religion. Opponents believed it could lead to discrimination based on sexual orientation. Indiana Republicans say the imbroglio that ensued happened because Pence didn't have a grasp on the details of how the bill would affect public policy. The city's tourism and convention bureau, Visit Indy, tallied more than 2,500 negative media mentions about the state in the days after Pence signed the bill. Indiana lost 12 conventions and $60 million. In the process, Pence fractured Daniels' big-tent coalition of socially liberal businesspeople and ideological conservatives.
State lawmakers were left to cobble together a wordsmithed legislative fix, and staged a news conference from which Pence, by then toxic, was notably absent. "He was not involved in the details of that legislation, and it was the details that burned him. He's interested in broad themes and philosophical pronouncements," says Pelath, the Indiana House minority leader. Pence's former congressional chief of staff, Marc Short, now Trump's director of legislative affairs, chalked up the episode to bad staff work and unfair media coverage.
In Indiana, Pence was often criticized as leading from behind and coasting on the ideological and economic fumes of Daniels. Whereas Daniels often outlined his budget priorities before legislative sessions began, Pence usually let his fellow Republican state lawmakers take the lead.
"The nitty-gritty of taking an idea into workable policy, that's just not Mike Pence ......
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/ ... -maybe-but "Trump's director of legislative affairs, chalked up the episode to bad staff work and unfair media coverage." Sounds like Trump's favorite excuse.
I stand by my empty suit comment, above. I doubt the slug has had an original thought in his whole life.... Oh,,
wait! He was a radio talk show host. That's sort of original.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hen then-candidate Donald Trump chose Pence as his running mate last year,
his approval rating was in the forties, making him less popular than most governors nationwide. As governor, Pence faced national scorn and was forced to backpedal after he signed the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, allowing businesses to deny services based on religious belief.
Indiana has long been considered to be a Republican stronghold and is rated R+7 on the Cook Partisan Voting Index. The current governor of Indiana is Republican Eric Holcomb, and Republicans hold supermajorities in both chambers of the Indiana General Assembly.
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/vbz ... ce-indiana
by Tanada » Tue 13 Feb 2018, 11:47:53
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GHung', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EdwinSm', 'A')s the old British saying goes "A penny for your thoughts", so what do people think about Pence {that is one of the plural forms for penny} as a (possible) President?
I have heard only a little about him, so I would be interested in what people here think. There seems people here from different parts of the American political spectrum so there could be quite a range of feelings!
Pence was governor of the state bordering us to the west and did a good job operating the political levers to get stuff done in his state.
Did he?
Yup, Indiana is doing fine economically, nobody is rioting and burning down Indianapolis over police shootings and none of the other nonsense that afflicted Maryland, Missouri, or other states in 2015-16 afflicted Indiana.
A lack of bad events is a good thing, don't you agree?
by GHung » Tue 13 Feb 2018, 17:22:23
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Omarosa warns America of 'scary' PenceFormer White House aide turned "Celebrity Big Brother" contestant Omarosa Manigault-Newman described Vice President Pence as "extreme" and "scary."
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/201 ... newday.cnnShe says that Pence thinks Jesus tells him what to say

The farce surrounding this White House continues, and, personally, I get a very creepy feeling from Pence; something in his eyes (dead eyes).
I've ignored such feelings in the past coming from folks, and generally regretted it. They almost always turned out to be very creepy.
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