[John_A]

In a world so heavily impacted by all that peak oil has brought us, is there any reason why these guys, sponsored by those of us who know and believe, haven't updated their website in a month with anything more than a "test"?

Lars accepted a position advertised at $75G's a year or two back, aren't out lobbyists in Washington supposed to be doing SOMETHING for us?

http://aspousa.org/

[Buddy_J]

A month without activity isn't a big deal. Currently, they are in the unenviable position of trying to refute the obvious. Maybe quiet is the best policy until the worm turns, as it were.

[John_A]

A big deal? Well, that would depend on your perspective on what the lobbying group, funded by someone who I assume actually believes and worries about peak oil, should be doing to sound the alarms, waken the citizens, basically make sure that the entire country doesn't stumble off into a mad max looking future.

So sitting around resting on their relatively new laurels (peak oil lobbying being a relatively new concept as far as ASPO's history is concerned) is hardly the most likely configuration I would expect of their "can see the capital from here" offices, the salary they pay Lars, and in general the level of fuss some of us expect from them.

As far as refuting the obvious, that is a big deal, and undoubtedly an interesting topic of conversion when dealing with the muckity mucks of Washington. Sounding scarcity alarms in the midst of multi-decade highs in oil production is certainly not a job for newbies.

[Buddy_J]

You sound pretty heavily invested in this ASPO thing. So they aren't doing a particularly good job sounding the alarm, according to you, how hard do you think is reasonable to sound the alarm? Screaming about the wolf coming on a daily basis does tend to have a putting off tendency, but sitting behind a strict peak oil definition in a country not only past its own peak but reversing it faster than any other country on the planet can be one hell of a hard sell. Maybe they are working harder than ever, selling some version to someone, and we just can't see it yet?

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Buddy_J', 'Y')ou sound pretty heavily invested in this ASPO thing. So they aren't doing a particularly good job sounding the alarm, according to you, how hard do you think is reasonable to sound the alarm? Screaming about the wolf coming on a daily basis does tend to have a putting off tendency, but sitting behind a strict peak oil definition in a country not only past its own peak but reversing it faster than any other country on the planet can be one hell of a hard sell. Maybe they are working harder than ever, selling some version to someone, and we just can't see it yet?

[Subjectivist]

When I first read up on Peak Oil back in 2005 there were a bunch of charts showing when each country or region peaked, but they all stopped about 2004 and projected the future from then on to about 2030.

I would love to see those 2004 charts compared to 2012 reality and see how close they were to the truth and what the 2012 charts show as the likely future. I thought they would be on the ASPO website but had no luck finding them. Does anyone have them? Even just a 2012 set would be helpful.

[ralfy]

"Commentary: The Export Capacity Index"

http://aspousa.org/2013/02/commentary-t ... ity-index/

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'W')hen I first read up on Peak Oil back in 2005 there were a bunch of charts showing when each country or region peaked, but they all stopped about 2004 and projected the future from then on to about 2030.

I would love to see those 2004 charts compared to 2012 reality and see how close they were to the truth and what the 2012 charts show as the likely future. I thought they would be on the ASPO website but had no luck finding them. Does anyone have them? Even just a 2012 set would be helpful.

[Tanada]

I found a list on one of the ASPO sites, not sure if it is the one you are looking for.
http://aspousa.org/peak-oil-reference/p ... y-country/

Millions of barrels per day
Country 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Peak

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'I') would love to see those 2004 charts compared to 2012 reality and see how close they were to the truth and what the 2012 charts show as the likely future.

[John_A]

In this new world of increasing American oil production and the problems associated with just trying to get rid of the stuff, and now the closing of TOD to what in the MSM appears to be more than the occasional snicker:

http://business.financialpost.com/2013/ ... =76a6-53cf

but the much more critical question is, what is the lobbying organization known as ASPO-USA doing about it? Once upon a time they regularly reported to their legions of fans, we are now months behind the latest update. Is it possible that as goes TOD, so goes ASPO-USA?

http://peak-oil.org/

Last Peak Oil review, May 6, 2013.

Has Tom Whipple gone missing? Where is Jan when you need him? Why haven't we heard from Tad? Surely not everyone got up and walked out, all upset over just a splash of oil here or there? Come on guys, it can't be that career killing to be associated with this stuff, surely there is some new way to vigorously fight back against the oil production reality/predicament the US finds itself in right now?

[eastbay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', ' ')You are a troll.

[ralfy]

Updates will have to come from skeptics, as they try to counter what is inevitable. An example includes increasing U.S. oil production that is affected by financial bubbles, lower energy returns, and decline curves, coupled with increasing energy and resource needs globally and problems with conventional production.

See also,

http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/take/pe ... at-way/963

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')
Quote of the Week “Just like Florida, our states are unique with vibrant coastal economies. Providing all of our states with the same exemption from dangerous offshore oil and gas drilling would ensure that vital industries from tourism to recreation to fishing are not needlessly placed in harm’s way.” Letter from 22 Democratic US senators to Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, after Florida was granted an exemption from the opening of 90% of US federal offshore areas for drilling Graphic of the Week Contents 1. Oil and the Global Economy 2. The Middle East & North Africa 3. China 4. Nigeria 5. Venezuela 6. The Briefs 1. Oil and the Global Economy New York oil futures closed up 4.7 percent last week despite a ten-rig increase in the number of active US oil rigs. London and New York futures closed with biggest weekly gains since October. On Thursday Brent crude briefly traded

[AdamB]

ASPO seems to have dried up and blown away, with only Tom remaining. He titles his work "Peak Oil in Review" but almost never discusses peak oil anymore. I dropped this news into this thread because it appears that members here spotted the demise of ASPO around the same time TOD was imploding, and thought I would review some of the posts in this thread to see who might have spotted what was up, before it was up, and call them out for accuracy, while at the same time noting any of the usual suspects who obviously fall just into the "endless cheerleader" class.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '
')While the USA has made remarkable gains in supply from tight oil it still has a long way to go to get back up to 10 M bbl/d of the 1970 peak, and even though demand is lower than it was five years ago the USA is still importing lots of oil from OPEC as well as Canada and Mexico.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'W')hen I first read up on Peak Oil back in 2005 there were a bunch of charts showing when each country or region peaked, but they all stopped about 2004 and projected the future from then on to about 2030.

I would love to see those 2004 charts compared to 2012 reality and see how close they were to the truth and what the 2012 charts show as the likely future. I thought they would be on the ASPO website but had no luck finding them. Does anyone have them? Even just a 2012 set would be helpful.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('John_A', 'I')n this new world of increasing American oil production and the problems associated with just trying to get rid of the stuff, and now the closing of TOD to what in the MSM appears to be more than the occasional snicker:

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', ' ')You are a troll.