[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'S')ure pstarr. I'm always interested in another dystopian prediction. Come at me bro.

[Newfie]

Cog,

You have been on a streak with solid trolling for about two weeks.

The threads I’ve seen were not folks making any fast crash predictions.

Your response here is baloney.

Man up, look in a mirror.

[onlooker]

Newfie, I am okay with Cog he has his opinions, others have theirs

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', ' ')Ther is no more a single 'doomer' meme or person anymore than there is a single date or prediction. It is an honest search for the truth.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GoghGoner', 'P')eak oil is more relevant than ever.

[GoghGoner]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dolanbaker', 'I')'m just waiting around to see when the "peakers" actually call it right, the point when we see the real peak, never to be repeated global maximum in production.

It will be interesting to see if anyone can actually call the real peak correctly, as in not always saying it'll come soon and eventually be right.

[dolanbaker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GoghGoner', 'P')eak oil is more relevant than ever. Yeah, the US has produced quite a bit of shale oil, Saudi Arabia is still pumping about the same amount, and Russia hasn't showed significant decline -- but oil is finite and more difficult to extract every year. $60 oil would have been shocking 20 years ago and we will probably be back to over $100 before this decade runs out.

This site is the only one to survive US shale. TOD and LATOC RIP.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dolanbaker', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GoghGoner', 'P')eak oil is more relevant than ever. Yeah, the US has produced quite a bit of shale oil, Saudi Arabia is still pumping about the same amount, and Russia hasn't showed significant decline -- but oil is finite and more difficult to extract every year. $60 oil would have been shocking 20 years ago and we will probably be back to over $100 before this decade runs out.

This site is the only one to survive US shale. TOD and LATOC RIP.

[Outcast_Searcher]

I came here in mid 2009 to learn more about oil and about energy generally, to assist me in investing in energy long term.

Since then, despite all the endless FUD from the fast crash doomers, I've learned a lot.

I stay, since thanks to all but the endlessly fact free FUDding hard crash doomers who refuse to even acknowledge facts, trends, or data (i.e those with an apparently religious bent re the near term EOTWAWKI), I continue to learn things from several members on this site.

And the world does change. Solar, Wind, battery tech, and EV's weren't on my radar to any meaningful extent in 2009. They certainly are now, for example.

For the rest of the discussions, it's mainly entertainment for me.

My main regret is that the noise/volume of nonsense from the messianic fast crash doomers is such that I have them on ignore, to waste far less time. So I see most of their input only from quotes by others, or occasionally curiously looking at a post and hoping for a change in tone or approach.

I'm thankful the site gives us the flexibility to easily screen out what we find, shall we say, consistently less than useful.

For those like AdamB and the rocks who do a lot of research and/or provide a lot of insight over time via their real world experience in the oil industry, I say thanks a lot for those contributions.

[jedrider]

Mostly the quality of the posters. I also like a good argument once in a while, but NOT everyday as in some sites.

It is also comforting to know that doom is not tomorrow, so I have to check once in a while

[mmasters]

The people here at least do some thinking and try to glean insight, can't say much about the rest of the population lol.

[SeaGypsy]

I'm still here because this is the smartest bunch of humans I have contact with as a group. Doesn't bother me who is right & wrong so much, there's value in reading a variety of perspectives anyway. After all these years, oil is still the bedrock of civilization as we know it, & it will run out- these are taken as givens here- despite all the conflicting positions in timing, mitigation, consequences. Most elsewhere the responses are non existent, or extreme one way or the other- corni or doomy. Here the extremes are moderated by at least a degree of reflection.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', 'S')o this place was a way to burn excess minutes while working (and waiting for a virtual meeting group to form), then an obsession in itself (because I followed the typical member profile and thought the oil peak was imminent, followed by Ruppert's concept of collapse),then finally, a replacement for some of the discussions held at work, on an overlapping but different set of topics.

Now this place is a habit, a need, and I often am here five or six times a day.

[onlooker]

Ibon, first off I have enjoyed reading all your posts, you will be missed. As for your thoughts, they definitely address an important aspect of the world we live in. And yes you may say that in a way we are all here caught in the virtual web. The only contrasting viewpoint I will offer is this:

The organic world is also the world of ideas. I believe ideas are just as important as the material tangible things around us in the world. So, here on this site, I have found the topics of interest and the quality of discourse good. The principal point though is that we are undoubtedly headed for MAJOR changes on our planet and not ones most would characterize as positive. So, I personally come to get an update on what is happening within the context of the overriding reality which is overshoot. This is where almost all the manners in which people speak about problems in the world falls short. They inevitably fail to make the connection with the underiding cause being our inbalance with the natural world and our unhealty impact on it overall. This is the main reason I like it here because at least here we are all to a greater and lesser degree aware of the limits to growth and frame our discussions accordingly.
P.S. I hope Ibon you reconsider.

[Newfie]

I doubt you can find the same kind of background and intelligence mix in the “organic” world as you have here. Just as you can meet your emotional and constructive needs in this artificial environment.

Neither should be exclusive to the other. Balance.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '
')Neither should be exclusive to the other. Balance.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')Pay attention folks. KJ's obsession and visiting five or six time a day is not so much because of the complexity of the topics discussed as much as he admitted that it is a replacement to the organic social group discussions he enjoyed when employed that he missed after retirement.

This is the digital pathology that I am now exiting.

[Cog]

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ne ... a59459654c

Only 8 percent of people actually keep their New Year’s resolutions, according to one commonly cited statistic. There are many reasons people can’t stick to their resolutions, from setting too many of them to getting derailed by small failures. Setting overly ambitious and restrictive goals ― like quitting sugar when you haven’t already been making small changes to improve your diet ― is one major cause of failure. While you might initially feel inspired and energized by setting blowout goals for 2017, the luster of these resolutions fades quickly when we realize how difficult they are to keep.

[dolanbaker]

I don't fail to keep my new year resolutions, I simply don't set any!

[GoghGoner]

The suburbs do not have any sense of community where I live. I am not going to try and manufacture it, I believe in lower fossil fuel supply periods that will happen organically and there isn't much point in going against the flow.