[GHung]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'F')rom your link Newfie:

I can be rich only if you are poor; wealth is a relation: there has to be poverty in order to have wealth.

The man is either an idiot or a communist to believe such a thing. Typical progressive trash. I know this is a common thought process of those who are jealous of other's wealth and seek to destroy it by confiscation, but its not true now and never has been. A wealth redistributionist is a criminal, no better than a mugger except he has government do that which he won't do himself. No need to fancy it up. That is what they do.

[asg70]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('baha', '
')ASG - If you haven't read it, you should...

[Newfie]

Cog,

Somehow I think you missed the main points of the article.

Never mind, in my own humble words, Calitalisim is an outgrowth of the Puritan Work Ethic, which had its merits. It worked as long as we had expansive lands to develop. Ben Franklin knew this and argued that the colonies would be no manufacturing threat to England as long as land remained cheap.

But those days are long gone, the manufacturing phase too passed, now land is dear and humanity is cheap due to a super abundance and automation and fossils fuel slaves.

Capitalisim is in trouble because it is locked into the myth of continuous growth. The mantra of Capitalisim has lead us to the state we experience, for good and evil. But it is not able to transition to a new flat growth, much less defrosts, state. This is clearly evident to anyone who can do basic math or just understands you really don’t want your wife to “grow” 10% per annum.

In fact that might be a good metaphore. Capitalisim is a religion where each adherent strives to”grow” as much and as fast as possible, so the greatest outward expression of success is gross obesity. In this religion holding ones weight steady over years is see as sinning, and to diet, to reduce, well that’s blasphemy.

I’m sure Capitalisim will eventually emerge as intercine struggles between smaller and smaller political units. Each unit reveling in the virtue of eating another’s lunch, while in total the whole mess devolves into chaos.

We are a short sighted creature.

[ralfy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
') Yes just like the assembly line workers wages and taxes were passed on in the value of a '57 chevy only the displaced worker won't have to commute to work or purchase day care for his children so the support level needed will be less.

[radon1]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'F')rom your link Newfie:

I can be rich only if you are poor; wealth is a relation: there has to be poverty in order to have wealth.

The man is either an idiot or a communist to believe such a thing.

[Newfie]

Radon

Interesting point.

Where Communisim comes in (using the religion metaphore) is as the foil. Capitalist/consumerist (but I’m getting ahead of myself) need a foil like Our monomthesistic religions need a foil. Communisim is the DEVIL.

So it’s quite reasonable for a modern religious adherent (Capitalist/consumerist) to reflectively point to a nonbeliever and call them a communist. It’s like finding witches in Salem.

[Cog]

Redistribution of wealth, capital controls, etc are in fact what communists do. So its not an error to call them what they are.

[Cog]

Redistribution of wealth, capital controls, control corporations, etc are in fact what communists do. So its not an error to call them what they are.

[GHung]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'R')edistribution of wealth, capital controls, control corporations, etc are in fact what communists do. So its not an error to call them what they are.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ralfy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
') Yes just like the assembly line workers wages and taxes were passed on in the value of a '57 chevy only the displaced worker won't have to commute to work or purchase day care for his children so the support level needed will be less.

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GHung', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'R')edistribution of wealth, capital controls, control corporations, etc are in fact what communists do. So its not an error to call them what they are.

[GHung]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GHung', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'R')edistribution of wealth, capital controls, control corporations, etc are in fact what communists do. So its not an error to call them what they are.

[KaiserJeep]

Faux wealth? Today (before the great power down, aka the crash) you can use it to buy food, energy, electronics, and the attentions of females. That is about as real as it gets. The only rub is figuring out what will still be worth owning after the crash.

[onlooker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', 'F')aux wealth? Today (before the great power down, aka the crash) you can use it to buy food, energy, electronics, and the attentions of females. That is about as real as it gets. The only rub is figuring out what will still be worth owning after the crash.

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', 'F')aux wealth? Today (before the great power down, aka the crash) you can use it to buy food, energy, electronics, and the attentions of females. That is about as real as it gets. The only rub is figuring out what will still be worth owning after the crash.

[onlooker]

So pray if you care Cog, tell us in what or where you have your wealth?
Oh that"s right in the ultimate Ponzifaux source, the stock market. Enough said

[Newfie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'R')edistribution of wealth, capital controls, etc are in fact what communists do. So its not an error to call them what they are.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'R')edistribution of wealth, capital controls, etc are in fact what communists do. So its not an error to call them what they are.

[Newfie]

VT,
But you are not a true adherent to the religion. If you were your attitude would be different. You are looking for reason and shades of grey. Zealotry decries such nuances.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'V')T,
But you are not a true adherent to the religion. If you were your attitude would be different. You are looking for reason and shades of grey. Zealotry decries such nuances.