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How todo Oil futures trading

Unread postby Kaare_Mai » Wed 20 Jul 2005, 13:00:58

Let me start to say that i have tried to search the forums for topics related to the issue stated in my subject, but i could not find any usable topics.

Second, i am not sure where such a topic like this belongs so i made it in the Open Discussion forum, moderators please feel free to move it to the appropriate forum if necessary. (Excuse my english, im danish :) )

My question is if anybody knows how to trade with oil futures? If so, would you please write a guide on doing this!

I have been looking on the net, and i have found some pages explaining the basics of futures trading, but not a single page explain HOW to trade them!

I mean, its not like a can go to the local super market and buy futures :cry:

Thanks in advance
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Unread postby MicroHydro » Wed 20 Jul 2005, 13:47:56

You need to talk to a broker. I am not sure what restraints there might be for Danish citizens. I trade on the NYMEX through Man Financial, www.manfutures.com. Man Financial, is one of the world's major futures and options brokers and commands a global financial presence with offices in New York, Chicago, Kansas City, London, Paris, Singapore, Taiwan, Sydney and Brisbane.

If you are not allowed to use an international broker, you might contact these folks:
Guarantee Fund for Danish Options and Futures
(FUTOP),Kompagnistraede 15, Box 2017, DK-1012 Copenhagen K Denmark, tel 45-33-93-33-11, fax 45-33-93-49-80

Due to time zone considerations, you probably want to trade North Sea Brent in London.
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Unread postby Jaymax » Wed 20 Jul 2005, 15:38:56

The best item for me was http://www2.barchart.com/support/futs101.asp - worth a look if you havn't read it already.

After that, like MicroHydro says, talk to a broker.

Actually talk to two - just so you get a feel for if either are more welcoming to a beginner.

Ask them what their financial expectation of you are in terms of money on account, and what they will charge you per trade - they'll want to know how much trading you're expecting to do.

Then, once you've opened your account (amount of paperwork probably depends alot on the regulations in your country), funded it with enough to cover the initial margins for whatever you plan to buy and then some, you just ring or email your broker (or fill in an online form perhaps) and say BUY however many of whatever at whatever rate/conditions etc. (you can of course start out with a SELL, rather than a BUY, but if it's oil, you probably don't want to be doing that...)

In my case, I'm occasional enough to do it over the phone without worrying about being online, and I usually get a call back a few minutes later telling me that I have bought however many CL8 or 10 at whatever exact contract price.

Job done, then watch the market plunge for a day or two, freak out, start breathing again as it picks up, pay off the car, a large chunk of the mortgage, and so on...

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Unread postby some_guy282 » Wed 20 Jul 2005, 17:50:31

I thought you could do those kinds of trades online without a broker? All these comercials about websites and stock trades... I don't know much abou it either, but I've also entertained the thought of buying some oil futures.
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Unread postby Jaymax » Wed 20 Jul 2005, 18:33:26

Very few stock traders are futures traders. And trading stocks is a whole different game to futures.

With most futures traders (UK anyhow), you have to pay more for the online trading facility, and BFL seem to strongly disuede newcomers from online trading. Probably ended up with too many broken day-traders weeping on their reception counter...

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Unread postby Badger » Wed 20 Jul 2005, 21:33:38

you need a brokerage account with a options clearance the simplist and safest way to do oil contracts is perhaps the CBOE (chicargo board options exchange) for limited means and knowledge people in the markets you can do it all off the internet...American options are far more forgiving then European options you can bail out of American options almost straight away Euro options you are stuck till experation day of the contract...play contracts with an open interest over 50 for more safty

CBOE OIL INDEX ticker symbol OIX.X
a good call option EXAMPLE for CBOE maybe OIX LT call for dec 2005 at strike price 500 for around USD$3500 as a HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE!

OPTIONS ARE RISKY they can wipe you out this is not a recomendation just an example im not a broker or investment guru

its up to the individual to decide very risky stuff these guys play mind games and they are very good at makin ya think one thing and doing another nothing is certain...BE-AWARE as some one said they watch the ticker board all day long and play the game
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