[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ralfy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ralfy', 'I')CEs are needed to make EVs.

[ralfy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '
')So EV's can't drive on the same roads as ICE's? Sounds a bit odd to me.

[ralfy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
') Yes but electric versions of all those things exist with the exception of aircraft. ICEs are at present the cheapest way to go by far but when oil is depleted we do have alternatives.

[dolanbaker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ralfy', '
')

EVs can't handle very steep inclines, heavy loads, and very rough roads. Diesel-powered vehicles usually can.

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[asg70]

A fully optioned Tesla Model S has up to 691 horsepower, with maximum torque at low speeds (unlike ICEs). That's more than the Ford super-duty at roughly 410 horsepower.

So they can't handle hills?

As far as range goes, yes, an EV trying to tow something heavy up a mountain is not a good idea, but the motors have the power and some of the energy will regen on the way back down again.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', 'A') fully optioned Tesla Model S has up to 691 horsepower, with maximum torque at low speeds (unlike ICEs). That's more than the Ford super-duty at roughly 410 horsepower.

So they can't handle hills?

As far as range goes, yes, an EV trying to tow something heavy up a mountain is not a good idea, but the motors have the power and some of the energy will regen on the way back down again.

[asg70]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '
')Such a machine will never be competitive with an ICE cart

[asg70]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'T')he battery is about 29% of the total weight of the Tesla Model S. The big flat deck is 1200 pounds of batteries. The electronic controls and the motor itself are the two cylinders in the foreground, and weigh about 150 pounds total. The car weighs 4,323 to 4,936 lbs

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dolanbaker', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ralfy', '
')

EVs can't handle very steep inclines, heavy loads, and very rough roads. Diesel-powered vehicles usually can.

[

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ralfy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '
')So EV's can't drive on the same roads as ICE's? Sounds a bit odd to me.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'S')uch a machine will never be competitive with an ICE cart, not when 1/3 of its payload is heavy batteries.

[ralfy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dolanbaker', '
')You can design an EV to do almost anything you want it to do, steep hill climbing and the ability to carry a heavy load along a rough road. All it needs is a bit of designing and building and you'll have an EV that does precisely what you want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69_hBrjSF-o

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ralfy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dolanbaker', '
')You can design an EV to do almost anything you want it to do, steep hill climbing and the ability to carry a heavy load along a rough road. All it needs is a bit of designing and building and you'll have an EV that does precisely what you want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69_hBrjSF-o

[SeaGypsy]

What absolute bullshit Baha. There's no net positive, perpetual motion machines are just lies, big trucks full in this case.

[Newfie]

A quote from that article.

“sounds like a perpetual motion machine is gradually becoming a reality.”

Perhaps this is best forgotten about.

Ah, Sea beat me to it!