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Re: H1N1 This Season

Unread postby Subjectivist » Mon 13 Jan 2014, 21:41:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', 'W')hat 'preservative' they using in the shots these days?

Thiomerserol unfortunately.
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Re: H1N1 This Season

Unread postby WildRose » Mon 13 Jan 2014, 22:58:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', 'W')hat 'preservative' they using in the shots these days?

Thiomerserol unfortunately.


I read somewhere that the thiomersal is excreted quickly in one's BMs. Anyone heard anything different?
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Re: H1N1 This Season

Unread postby Tanada » Tue 14 Jan 2014, 03:52:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', 'W')hat 'preservative' they using in the shots these days?

Thiomerserol unfortunately.


I read somewhere that the thiomersal is excreted quickly in one's BMs. Anyone heard anything different?


Everyone has their own innate tendency to absorb the Mercury in it, some people excrete it easily while others bioaccumulate it. I asked my DC why they don't inject a small dose of EDTA at the same time, it is cheap and very effective at binding to heavy metals and causing them to be excreted by your kidneys within 24 hours. His answer, the government doesn't require it and EDTA is cheap and generic so none of the drug companies are pushing it as a therapy. Most if not all of peoples concerns could be dealt with cheaply, effectively and even easily if they were made standards of practice, however the lobby groups pressuring the regulatory system are much more interested in promoting whatever the newest and most expensive therapy is instead of whatever is most effective and cheapest.
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Re: H1N1 This Season

Unread postby WildRose » Wed 15 Jan 2014, 23:47:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', 'W')hat 'preservative' they using in the shots these days?

Thiomerserol unfortunately.


I read somewhere that the thiomersal is excreted quickly in one's BMs. Anyone heard anything different?


Everyone has their own innate tendency to absorb the Mercury in it, some people excrete it easily while others bioaccumulate it. I asked my DC why they don't inject a small dose of EDTA at the same time, it is cheap and very effective at binding to heavy metals and causing them to be excreted by your kidneys within 24 hours. His answer, the government doesn't require it and EDTA is cheap and generic so none of the drug companies are pushing it as a therapy. Most if not all of peoples concerns could be dealt with cheaply, effectively and even easily if they were made standards of practice, however the lobby groups pressuring the regulatory system are much more interested in promoting whatever the newest and most expensive therapy is instead of whatever is most effective and cheapest.


Thanks for that, Tanada. It's especially sad that the above measure isn't taken when you consider that young children apparently bioaccumulate the mercury more than other age groups.

Apparently, mercury can show up in stool, urine and hair after vaccination, but as you stated, who knows how much one accumulates and how much one gets rid of?
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Re: H1N1 This Season

Unread postby Subjectivist » Thu 16 Jan 2014, 00:17:14

Well its been 48 hours since I got my shot and I am feeling healthy again. I hate getting these things, the first day I had a headache and low grade fever and for most of today I had chills. Feel pretty normal now but I am very restless.
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Re: H1N1 This Season

Unread postby WildRose » Thu 16 Jan 2014, 10:06:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'W')ell its been 48 hours since I got my shot and I am feeling healthy again. I hate getting these things, the first day I had a headache and low grade fever and for most of today I had chills. Feel pretty normal now but I am very restless.


Just curious, why are you restless, Subjectivist?
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Re: H1N1 This Season

Unread postby Subjectivist » Thu 16 Jan 2014, 10:15:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'W')ell its been 48 hours since I got my shot and I am feeling healthy again. I hate getting these things, the first day I had a headache and low grade fever and for most of today I had chills. Feel pretty normal now but I am very restless.


Just curious, why are you restless, Subjectivist?


I normally work out every day but with my not feeling well the last two days I skipped working out. Once my wife was asleep I couldn't use the excercise equipment as it wakes her up and she needed her sleep. Between having too much energy and thinking about Peak Oil and the chances of finding a job in the current economy I got about 4 hours of sleep.
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Re: H1N1 This Season

Unread postby Tanada » Thu 16 Jan 2014, 13:58:28

In 1918 the H1N1 epidemic swept America. In October 1918 195,000 died, the deadliest month in American history.
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Re: H1N1 This Season

Unread postby WildRose » Thu 16 Jan 2014, 14:19:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'W')ell its been 48 hours since I got my shot and I am feeling healthy again. I hate getting these things, the first day I had a headache and low grade fever and for most of today I had chills. Feel pretty normal now but I am very restless.


Just curious, why are you restless, Subjectivist?


I normally work out every day but with my not feeling well the last two days I skipped working out. Once my wife was asleep I couldn't use the excercise equipment as it wakes her up and she needed her sleep. Between having too much energy and thinking about Peak Oil and the chances of finding a job in the current economy I got about 4 hours of sleep.


Ahh, I can relate to the trouble sleeping. There is much to keep one's mind busy these days.
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Re: H1N1 This Season

Unread postby jupiters_release » Mon 20 Jan 2014, 09:09:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', 'W')hat 'preservative' they using in the shots these days?

Thiomerserol unfortunately.


I read somewhere that the thiomersal is excreted quickly in one's BMs. Anyone heard anything different?


You've been a member here since '06 and still haven't watched Dr Ayoob's video?
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Re: H1N1 This Season

Unread postby WildRose » Mon 20 Jan 2014, 18:37:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', 'W')hat 'preservative' they using in the shots these days?

Thiomerserol unfortunately.


I read somewhere that the thiomersal is excreted quickly in one's BMs. Anyone heard anything different?


You've been a member here since '06 and still haven't watched Dr Ayoob's video?


Nope, guess I haven't seen everything!

Where would I find it?
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Re: H1N1 This Season

Unread postby jupiters_release » Mon 20 Jan 2014, 21:50:17

Think it's still called google, maybe known as nsa or simply the cloud now? :razz:
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Re: H3N8 Influenza

Unread postby Timo » Thu 06 Feb 2014, 13:26:50

Not quite sure this fits here, but our daily rag just updated the death toll from H1N1 in our state this winter to 16.
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Re: H1N1 This Season

Unread postby Subjectivist » Thu 06 Feb 2014, 14:39:53

From the Toled Blade newspaper in Ohio,
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ore than 85 people have been hospitalized since Nov. 11, and the H1N1 strain of the virus has re-emerged despite being included in the influenza vaccine this year. The number of hospitalizations is much higher than in previous years. Last year, there were 63 flu hospitalizations in Lucas County by Jan. 17; two years ago there were only 14.

There have also been four flu-related deaths in Lucas County and eight total in northwest Ohio and southeast Michigan.

“We have to keep this in perspective. We know some people are going to die of the flu every year. It’s always more gratefulness and luck that they didn’t. To be honest, in Ohio and in Lucas County we’ve been relatively fortunate in the severity of the flu outbreaks the past couple years,” Dr. Grossman said.

During the past two years, there were no confirmed deaths from the flu in Lucas County. There was one flu-related death in the 2010-2011 flu season, and in 2009-2010, the year of the H1N1 pandemic, there were four deaths.

http://www.toledoblade.com/Medical/2014 ... YiMSH4p.99
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Re: H1N1 This Season

Unread postby Loki » Thu 06 Feb 2014, 16:46:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')url=http://www.opb.org/news/series/vitalsigns/oregon-flu-season-winding-down/]Health Officials: Oregon Flu Season Winding Down[/url]

Oregon’s flu season appears to be winding down, according to the state health department.

Over the last few weeks, hospitalizations from flu in Oregon have dropped-off from 115 a week to 23. At the same time, fewer people are turning up at local clinics with flu-like symptoms.

Doctor Ann Thomas of the Oregon Public Health Division says the geographic spread of the disease has decreased from widespread to regional.

“We’ll still see flu circulating for at least a few more weeks,” she said. “And of course there’s always sporadic cases after that. But I think the worst of it is over.”

Thomas says there is one caveat: that sometimes flu type B comes to the fore after flu type A dies off. This year it’s been the type A flu, H1N1, that has caused most of the hospitalizations.
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Re: THE Swine Flu Thread pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby ralfy » Wed 30 Dec 2015, 07:28:12

"Researchers Warn of Potential for Swine Flu Pandemic"

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/201 ... u-pandemic
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Re: H1N1 This Season

Unread postby Subjectivist » Mon 12 Dec 2016, 19:25:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ASHINGTON — Get ready to roll up your sleeves.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is recommending against nasal-spray vaccines for the upcoming flu season, in which it expects to see a variant of 2009’s H1N1 virus.

And while Arizona is still about a month away from peak flu season, medical experts are advising residents to get vaccinated “sooner rather than later” to head off the virus.

“The best way to protect yourself from influenza is to get vaccinated,” said Jessica Rigler, branch chief for public health preparedness at the Arizona Department of Health Services.

Arizona had already confirmed 25 flu cases from six counties as of Nov. 26, according to the department, but Rigler said the peak influenza season for the state typically falls in the beginning of the year — January, February and March.

The CDC said that more than 131 million doses of flu vaccine have already been given from the

157 million to 168 million that manufacturers predict they will be able to produce this year. While nasal vaccines are still available, the CDC is recommending against their use this year because of questions about their effectiveness.


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Re: H1N1 Swine Flu Thread pt 2

Unread postby Tanada » Fri 27 Oct 2017, 10:03:22

Kashmir is in the extreme north of India and if the outbreak spreads widely the dense population of the country would lead to a massive (on the modern scale) death toll. I actually think Ibons Predator is looking for these sorts of opportunity, densely crowded populations with no ability to effectively fight the disease including a large poorly fed underclass who are already ignored by authorities. Seems like a recipe for a large scale pandemic. Influenza is unfortunately easy to pass and hard to quarantine once it becomes established in the fall season and an outbreak can last up to nine months scything down victims day after day as it spreads. In countries like the USA/Canada the threat is lower because of our lower population density but we are by no means immune.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') 45-year-old man died of H1N1 influenza while a pregnant woman is critical due to the same infection at the Sher-e-Kashmir Institute of Medical Sciences, even as experts fear spike in the cases amid government’s failure to make the testing and isolation facilities for such patients operational.

A source told Greater Kashmir that a man, aged 45, from Budgam district was brought to the SKIMS on October 19 and died four days later. “He suffered from acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) and was being treated at the surgical intensive care unit,” the source said. “He had tested positive for the H1N1 influenza during the course of treatment.”

Another patient, who has also tested positive for the flu, is a female in her 20s and is pregnant. She is being treated by anti-viral therapy, a doctor said on the condition of anonymity. “Her condition is very serious.”

Medical superintendent SKIMS, Dr S Amin Tabish confirmed that two patients who had tested positive for H1N1 influenza were admitted to the hospital. “We had a male H1N1 patient who died on Sunday morning. The female patient of H1N1 influenza is critical and we are putting in our best resources to save her,” he said.

He said that the hospital had adequate supplies of anti-viral drugs and testing was also available. “Our hospital is adequately equipped with rapid test kits,” he said.

In J&K, as per the Integrated Disease Surveillance Program, there have been 18 cases and three deaths attributed to H1N1 influenza this year (up to 15 October).

Although the influenza has already caused over 2,000 deaths across India this year, experts have predicted that influenza cases in Kashmir could rise as the state has “the same pattern as of Delhi, with no steps being taken to prepare for the expected inclemency.”

At SKIMS, over the past week, three patients, confirmed to have H1N1 influenza, have been admitted to general wards or common ICUs.

A doctor, wishing anonymity, said that although the institute claims to have an isolation ward for high infective cases such as H1N1 influenza, the facility is defunct for want of staff.

“We cannot house a patient in isolation if there is no staff designated for it. We are left with no option but to have them placed with other patients,” he said.

While the government in 2015 allocated Rs 5.63 crore to Government Medical College Srinagar for construction of a high-end lab for H1N1 influenza, the facility has still not been made fully functional at the Chest Diseases Hospital here.


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African Swine Fever

Unread postby Tuike » Sat 05 Dec 2020, 09:28:34

Any news about the african swine fever? There was hype that all Chinese pigs are going to die to the virus and then there will be famine. I haven't heard anything about the virus for a long time. Has the virus been defeated?
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Re: African Swine Fever

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Sat 05 Dec 2020, 12:35:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tuike', 'A')ny news about the african swine fever? There was hype that all Chinese pigs are going to die to the virus and then there will be famine. I haven't heard anything about the virus for a long time. Has the virus been defeated?

Doing a quick google search on "african swine fever chinese pigs", the only story I see page 1 beyond the spring is this, which seems to do a decent job in summary form (graphs) of quantifying the resultant rise in food prices inside and outside China. It looks like a significant issue re pricing in China, not so much globally.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s43016-020-0057-2

OTOH, looking at the hits for pages 2 and 3, there are a handful of stories about pork price impacts in China over the summer.

If it were ongoing "big news", one would think there would be ongoing stories in the MSM, at least now and then.

Disclosure: Aside from the one cited article's summary and graph perusal, I didn't dig into this at all -- just a high level quick view to get a sense of it.

For me, mostly eating at home these days is so very CHEAP compared to eating out most of the time (in normal times), I mostly haven't been thinking of food as "expensive". (Blatant price gouging places like Amazon and Walmart aside, of course. One does have to use common sense and comparison shop ALWAYS, to avoid getting ripped off in the modern take no prisoners corporate business climate). Food at home seems cheap, even of course, seeing the stories about meat prices rising in the spring / summer due to the Covid-19 meat packing issues, but for poor people, I'm sure every extra dollar for pork and other meat matters.
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