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THE Beer Thread (merged)

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General interest discussions, not necessarily related to depletion.

Postby jimmydean » Fri 01 Jul 2005, 14:51:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('linlithgowoil', 'm')y favourite lager is Scottish Tennent's Lager. Currently, i can procure 24 500ml cans for £9.99 on a special deal - which works out at 41.6ish pence a can - this is DIRT cheap. If you buy the cans separately, they are around 90 pence each.

The Lager is a fine pilsner type lager with a 4% alcohol content. It is fizzy, but not overly so, has a nice golden hue and is very refreshing. It is FAR superior to, say, budweiser lager.

I also enjoy german lager - any type of pilsner will do - its all very good, though it is usually pretty strong and i always end up with a pretty bad hangover the next day.

I dont like ales or foamy beers, they just arent right - it feels like you are having a meal when you are drinking them, they are that thick and rich. The refreshing taste of pilsner is where its at.

Incidentally, i dont know whether anyone has heard of Buckfast Tonic Wine. This is a fortified wine that is drank by young underage drinkers in scotland. Its made by monks in england. It still costs around £4.50, and has cost this since i was around 14 years old - there has been zero inflation on that particular product.

However, i notice that beer has come up in price - When i was 14/15 years old, you could get 4 cans of tennents super for around £4 or less. Now, each can costs about £1.30, so its now about £5.20 for 4 cans - thats a 30% inflation increase.


My father is from Scotland and when his close friend comes over he generally brings me 6 Carlsberg Special Brews ;-) I really like the kick it gives and for a strong beer it tastes not unlike a typical Canadian ale.

On a trip to Belgium back in the 90's I fell in love with Grimbergen. One of the best beers I have ever tasted and it's a pity we don't import that to north america.

Beer in Canada has climbed steadily upward. Most popular is Molson Canadian which is $35.50 CAD/24 bottles now. As a result of lot of people are looking to alternative beers at the moment.
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Postby Kingcoal » Fri 01 Jul 2005, 16:34:24

Pre-oil people drank more intoxicants than us. Life was hard, painful and oftentimes boring. Liquor was rationed to sailors, workmen, etc. If we have a hard time post peak, alcohol will become very popular and might resume being used as a currency.
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Postby Roop » Sat 02 Jul 2005, 02:24:28

Support your local microbrewery. There's a great place in Louisville down the street from me called Cumberland Brews. Kind of a hippy hangout but they brew all of their beers on site. You can get a refillable half gallon growler for $8.00. I just polished off a pale ale growler from them, it sure helps to take the edge off of Peak Oil. :razz:
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Postby aldente » Sat 02 Jul 2005, 10:48:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('0mar', 'R')eal men drink hard liquor.


That statement is not exactely accurate. The effect of hard liquor goes from zero to being drunk (if consumed in sufficient quantity) while with beer and wine I at least am able to keep a buzz for hours without getting into the "wasted" state. Plus the regular consumption of hard liquor might lead to unpleasant side effects such as serious addiction (a former neighbor of mine was one of those miserable creature -he started and finished the day with cheap Wodka- I've seen it all).

I think hard liquor established itself since it was easy to transport (maximum alcohol content per bottle) and it is self preserving (no oxidation or loss of CO2). For a traveller on horse in the American West in the 1880's simply the easiest way to bring some along. So what is considered "manly" is the lone traveller exploring new land and that hard liquor symbolizes that livestyle is merely an association. Eventhough the fellow traveller in the picture probably should have waited for the evening before grabbing the bottle...

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Postby The_Virginian » Sat 02 Jul 2005, 14:15:43

Nice dog and pony show. looks like an Arabian horse, just what I'm into. good lung power, eats less, master of endurance races.

There is a German proverb:

In Wine there is wisdom

In Beer their is strength.

In water there is Bacteria.

(Now where did I hear that?)


As for the hard stuff...yah I enjoy a good Scotch wiskey and even Finladia vodka... but as Albente pointed out maybe the excercise is not to get stone cold drunk...

Of course the non-diluted wine from Judea will knock your socks off, so please add a little water like comercial wineries.
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Off topic: Best beer IMHO

Postby Bedevere » Mon 18 Jul 2005, 17:01:10

Steam Whistle Pilsner. Man this stuff is going to turn me into an alcoholic. If it is available where you are then I suggest you pick some up...

Your picks?
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Postby ReeceARK1 » Mon 18 Jul 2005, 17:10:50

Anything I make myself :) If I don't have any ready to drink then I like: Moose Drool, Albita, McMenamin's Terminator Stout. Life is Beer! :wink:
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Postby eric_b » Mon 18 Jul 2005, 17:41:42

Never met a beer I didn't like. Err, I don't care for light, watered down beer.

These days there's so many different craft brews to choose from. By and large they're
all good.

I like dark beer. Bell's stuff is good. Heavy, heavy fuel. I like the Bell's Porter.
Some of the stuff from the Redhook (?) brewery is good, reasonably priced.
Guiness out of those weird cans is good.

Best cheap ghetto beer, IMO, is Red Dog. < $3.00 six pack.
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Postby MD » Mon 18 Jul 2005, 17:46:20

anything at all from a fresh tapped keg
Stop filling dumpsters, as much as you possibly can, and everything will get better.

Just think it through.
It's not hard to do.
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Postby lateStarter » Mon 18 Jul 2005, 18:39:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'a')nything at all from a fresh tapped keg


Agreed! People disparage American beer (and rightly so with regards to the large, well know distibutors) but there is lots of great craft beer in the states. That will prove to be a useful skill in the future.

I'm in Poland now, and they have lots of decent beer. Alcohol content is also higher and the price is so reasonable....
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Postby Hawkcreek » Mon 18 Jul 2005, 21:16:34

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Postby I_Like_Plants » Tue 19 Jul 2005, 05:05:43

Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is always good and you can get it everywhere here.

Purists swirl that last bit around in the bottle before gulping it so they can drink that silt on the bottom.
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alas the tax

Postby rogerhb » Wed 20 Jul 2005, 01:06:03

alas Beer suffers from heavy tax and duties which various widely from country to country so does not give a good indicator on the things you listed as wanting to measure.

A common index is the "McDonalds Big Mac" index, however more useful would be milk and bread.
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Postby hanrahan » Wed 20 Jul 2005, 02:36:45

The only "practical" solution to PO that I can think of is to buy up the cheap wine on offer now. Good red cleanskins A$5-6 and there's a glut of bulk wine.

I have no intention of going out sober :P :P
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Postby pea-jay » Wed 20 Jul 2005, 03:50:55

mmmmm beeeeeer.

My favorite...
full body beer - Guiness Draft
pilsner - Pilsner Urquell
all purpose mass produced beer - Coors Original

My least favoriteHeinekin
Old Milwaukee
the watered down crap that pizza hut sells
$5 dollar beer at pro sporting events.

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Postby Grimnir » Wed 20 Jul 2005, 04:48:41

For now (and maybe forever, if the peak oil stuff comes to pass soon), the best beer for me is the one that costs the least! Unfortunately, beer prices are inflating along with most other groceries. The one I have long referred to simply as "two-dollar beer" now costs $2.50 (for 6). Doesn't roll off the tongue nearly as well.
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Postby VinceG » Wed 20 Jul 2005, 07:18:00

Leffe Blond, Leffe Triple, Grimbergen -> Special beer from Belgium with a high alcohol percentage (7-9%)

Amstel, Grolsch -> Excellent beer from the Netherlands, 5% alcohol with an average price (about 10 euro's for 24 bottles)

Schultenbrau -> One of the cheapest beers around (30cts for a 0,5 liter can), terrific quality though!
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Postby The_Virginian » Wed 20 Jul 2005, 18:00:51

Staropramen dark.

Sapporo Reserve.

Kaiserdom (bavaria)

Redhook ESB.

Redhook IDPA.

Becks Dark.

Checz (real) Budwieser.

Bass ale.

Grolsh.
and the beat goes on... too many good beers to say "this is the best"


Worst beers

Any American "Light"/water beer

Budwieser USA
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Postby DomusAlbion » Wed 20 Jul 2005, 18:05:48

Guiness Draft [smilie=angel11.gif]

Is there any better? :)
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Postby johnmarkos » Wed 20 Jul 2005, 18:08:12

I'm partial to anything from Anchor Brewing Company, right here on Potrero Hill in the city of San Francisco, California. I'm particularly fond of their porter.
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