by Outcast_Searcher » Fri 28 Jul 2017, 22:43:16
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', 'W')ell, truly the entire spectrum right here. Cog optimistic, I am doomerish and Ibon wary. For what it's worth, many portfolios seem intermixed with hedge funds and derivatives of some kind, all of which seem risky to put it mildly. I suggest Ibon you look into the current very risky nature of the stock market before investing in it. Just my two cents.
The idea that all derivatives are risky stems from ignorance. It depends on what they are, and how they are used. For example, stock options are derivatives on the underlying stock. They can be used to make a stock portfolio safer (as a hedge) or used to make wildly unsafe bets with virtually unlimited risk.
The stock market is elevated P/E wise, compared to the historical average. OTOH, interest rates are VERY low compared to the average since 1950. We've been told that the Fed will normalize interest rates any time now for at least 5 years and here we still sit with incredibly low interest rates.
Will that change soon? Even the clowns at the Fed don't seem to know.
Market timing is a game that doesn't work in the long run. Thus the success of passive stock investments over active ones (i.e. stock index funds vs. active mutual funds).
So how is it that you feeling things are "risky" is helpful? How does an investor utilize that? Were your dour predictions helpful the past several years as the market climbed? Do you know what the next several years will bring in the market? Of course not. You only know how you feel.
I have no clue myself. Which is why I diversify and hedge. It's worked for 35+ years, in terms of keeping my portfolio risk at a level I deem acceptable, with very decent returns over time.
What good is cowering in fear in cash, while inflation and taxes leaves you net behind, even after interest?
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.