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THE Israel Thread pt 4 (merged)

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Re: THE Israel Thread pt 4 (merged)

Unread postby Pretorian » Tue 13 Dec 2011, 21:27:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'I') always wondered that too, as a Sunday Catholic I'm of the understanding (no expert here by any means) that by the crucifixion of Jesus everyone could become gods people? No matter because it's not people like me expecting the government to go to war for my religious ideations.
Well I heard that according to some hard-core Christians, all Jews must gather in Israel, then a war will break out (obviously, so many Jews in one little place) than Jesus will show up and will show some karate on the ring with Satan, and then he'll win by a classy knock-out, so Israel will win, and then all Jews will baptize themselves as Christians, and all the dead Jews will rise from the dead (after roasting in hell for a few thousands of years ) and also will baptize themselves as Christians and then all of them will go to heaven together with current goyish Christians. I was even asked if buying Israeli shekels is a good investment strategy considering this outcome. I'm serious.
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Re: THE Israel Thread pt 4 (merged)

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Wed 14 Dec 2011, 00:44:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Serial_Worrier', 'I') agree with Newt Gingrich. The Palestinians are a fake people.
Someone should ask him for examples of genuine "peoples".

Jews? Americans? Whites? Native Americans? Hawaiians?
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Re: THE Israel Thread pt 4 (merged)

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Thu 15 Dec 2011, 01:29:08

Wiesenthal Center names top 10 anti-Semitic slurs
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')ecember 13, 2011
NEW YORK (JTA) – A comment by Mahmoud Abbas referring to Palestine as the “holy land” placed first in the Simon Wiesenthal Center’s Top 10 Anti-Israel/Anti-Semitic Slurs of 2011.

The Palestinian Authority president made the remark at the U.N. General Assembly on Sept. 23.

“I come before you today from the Holy Land, the land of Palestine, the land of divine messages, ascension of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and the birthplace of Jesus Christ peace be upon him, to speak on behalf of the Palestinian people,” he said.
I can't figure out why they have a problem with this. Did Abbas leave something out?

Here is the introductory paragraph of the Wikipedia article History of ancient Israel and Judah
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')srael and Judah were related Iron Age kingdoms of ancient Canaan. The earliest known reference to the name Israel in archaeological records is in the Merneptah stele, an Egyptian record of c. 1209 BCE. By the 9th century BCE the Kingdom of Israel had emerged as an important local power before falling to the Neo-Assyrian Empire in 722 BCE. Israel's southern neighbor, the Kingdom of Judah, enjoyed a period of prosperity as a client-state of the greater empires of the region before a revolt against the Neo-Babylonian Empire led to its destruction in 586 BCE and the deportation of the elite. There is no definite answer to the question of when Judah emerged,[1] although it seems to have occurred no earlier than the 9th century BCE.[2][3] In the 7th century BCE Jerusalem became a city with a population many times greater than before and clear dominance over its neighbours, probably as the result of a cooperative arrangement with the Assyrians, who wished to establish Judah as a pro-Assyrian vassal state controlling the valuable olive industry.[4] Following the fall of the Neo-Babylonian Empire to the Persian Cyrus the Great, 539 BC, some Judean exiles returned to Jerusalem during the Persian period, inaugurating the formative period in the development of a distinctive Judahite identity in the Persian province of Yehud. Yehud was absorbed into the subsequent Hellenistic kingdoms that followed the conquests of Alexander the Great, but in the 2nd century BCE the Judaeans revolted against the Hellenist Seleucid Empire and created the Hasmonean kingdom. This, the last nominally independent Judean kingdom, came to an end in 63 BCE with its conquest by Pompey of the Roman Republic.
Do you see anything of historical significance that Abbas should have mentioned?

Check your Xmas cards, they may be anti-Semitic if they mention Jesus or the Holy Land. :roll:
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Re: THE Israel Thread pt 4 (merged)

Unread postby careinke » Wed 29 Feb 2012, 04:23:24

Fears of an Israeli attack grows

http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/28/10534518-fears-grow-of-israel-iran-missile-shootout

I'm surprised that most of the analysts feel Israel will take the southern route. That would mean some overt cooperation with the Saudi's. I know the Saudi's do not like the Persians, but they care even less for Israel.

The downside just seems to high for the Royal Family. The Matawa will be in an uproar over a Muslim country siding with the Jews. You could have another Arab spring, but this time in KSA.

They would also be putting their oil fields at risk.

The royal family is very adept about staying in power, I just don't see the risks being worth whatever possible gain they could garner in this very dangerous game.
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Re: THE Israel Thread pt 4 (merged)

Unread postby Subjectivist » Thu 18 May 2017, 22:03:38

I would love to go to Israel, see the Temple Mount, visit the old wall around the core of Jeruselum and picture the millions of people who have trod those streets over the last 3000 years. I would love to soak in the Dead Sea as well.

Unfortunately as a less than wealthy person and being unwilling to charge such an expensive vacation on credit just to pay it off at interest I know it will never happen.
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