Current issue of National Geographic

by **frankthetank** » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 12:21:25

National Geographic

Very good view of whats going on out west and how bad we (American's)need this gas! But at what cost?

by **Novus** » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 12:54:54

Until recently the rachers were winning the battle against the gas companies but with gas prices soaring there is little they can do to stop it. In the next few years Wyoming is going is going to turn into one giant gas field as other gas fields dry up.

by **shakespear1** » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 14:17:39

Nice find. Yes, this is the reality of oil/gas development, however I am surprised that in the US these guys are not being leaned on to clean up their mess.

by **dmtu** » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 18:34:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'M')ost people don't care. They drive from breakfast to work to lunch to home and listen to Rush complain about environmentalists. And if they get enough vacation time then it's off to the Yellowstone parking lot. or some other country the travel industry has convinced them is "natural."

But I still love the sub-head in the article, "A natural gas boom is transforming public lands in the Rockies pitting Westerner against Westerner." I am wondering if the other "Westerner" is a cattle rancher or a real estate speculator?

by **killJOY** » Sun 17 Jul 2005, 08:20:25

Excellent piece.

I really get the feeling we've passed the point of No Return.

The yeasts are grabbling at the final molecules of sugar...and they're choking in the toxic (alcoholic) environment they've created....

by **BabyPeanut** » Sun 17 Jul 2005, 11:10:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', 'T')he yeasts are grabbling at the final molecules of sugar...and they're choking in the toxic (alcoholic) environment they've created....

by **killJOY** » Sun 17 Jul 2005, 11:25:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')MM! Beer!

by **Carrie** » Mon 18 Jul 2005, 21:43:32

Check out the new August 2005 issue of NG. The title on the cover is "After Oil: Powering the Future" with a photo of 2 abandoned gas pumps. The article mentions that oil may soon decline, and goes into detail on the various alternatives. It does talk about hydrogen not being a "silver bullet", because it's an energy carrier, currently requires fossil fuel to create and tends to take more energy to produce than it provides. Definitely a good article to read.

by **savethehumans** » Tue 19 Jul 2005, 00:54:19

Yeah, I noted that when visiting the NG Net page. Looking very forward to getting my August issue! (Been a subscriber since 1997.)

by **I_Like_Plants** » Tue 19 Jul 2005, 04:33:08

NG is and always was an upper-middle-class mag, when peak oil is being discussed there, the cat is out of the bag.

Bah I got some cheap ($6.99) Italian wine today, and not only does it not have a real cork in the bottle but some weird fake one, but it's not as good as good old California cheap plonk from a bit north of here......

by **Novus** » Tue 19 Jul 2005, 18:22:29

I just got my August Issue Today. It starts off very cornacopian talking about how all these clean alternatives are going to save us but when they start looking at the facts the hope starts to fade. World energy demands are expected to increase 50% by 2030 but alternatives will grow by about the same rate so really no progress is being made. And if you look at the 2 extra billion tons of polution that growth is causing we are in really bad shape. So is what National Geographic is saying about the question of what is most likely going to power the future the answer is COAL, COAL, and more COAL.

So if peak oil doesn't end civilization runaway climate change and polution will.

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