[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', 'T')he Great Recession Caused A Sharp Rise In Suicides

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'A')ll I can say is: those that are contemplating a self-directed exit need to consider what they might miss, and more importantly, what small thing they might be able to do that could make a difference. Take a "pay it forward" attitude. Help someone, even when you have nothing left. A smile at the right time to a child, or a helping hand to an elderly person that needs a step-up, or water a plant, or feed a bird, or... anything that comes into your path. If you are sad and suicidal, give life a happy nudge, and keep watching the show.

That's advice from someone near the end of the road (not self-directed). It's all good!

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'F')or many white males, they anchor themselves so firmly in their jobs, their jobs become who they are. If they lose that job for whatever reason, even retirement, they struggle to find some meaning to their existence. At least that is my 2 cents on it.

[Hawkcreek]

I think part of the increase in sucidides in white males is due to the cost of health care.
If you get a serious disease, you might be able to leave your family in better shape if you don't go for the $200 K in costs during the last year of your life.
And about the racket of health care - this guy has a solution. It will never be implemented because it would break a lot of corporations, but healthcare doesn't have to be so expensive.
https://www.market-ticker.org/

[Hawkcreek]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '
')Each day, getting up when I choose (instead of being called out at all hours by the pager), rested and relaxed, and knowing the day is mostly mine to do with as I choose is just fantastic. It's like pretty much the opposite of my emotions about waking up to go to work (generally 7 days a week) the last several years of my career.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')
This also does explain a little bit the scapegoating of immigrants, whether legal or illegal. Why? Because they come to this country with zero entitlements happy to work cleaning bed pans in an old peoples home or in agriculture or whatever menial job and many do then rise and progress in the classic story of the American Dream. This is a whole other mindset then the privileged white man who lost his job and feels lost.

[Hawkcreek]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')What is it about white males who became unemployed who having felt entitled do not have the humility or the hard work ethic to follow in the footsteps of what my father did or what you see many immigrants do.
I have the answer to this I think but at the moment I prefer to pose the question.

[Cog]

[Cog]

If there is any advice I could give a younger guy is to take on minimal debt, live below your means, save money, and have another marketable skill besides the one you work in. You can ride out a lot of bad situations if you do this.

[Hawkcreek]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Squilliam', '
')One major problem with the economic system is that it is a form of slavery. The modern status of 'work' only really became apparent to people in the great depression because before then a significant number of people didn't 'need' a job to live. In slavery 1.0 you put the fences on the outside of the property to keep people in. You tied people to the land that they often were born on. In slavery 2.0 you have the same fences, but you use them to keep people out. When everything is owned by someone else there is no choice with respect to opting out of the system because you cannot go anywhere to escape. This IMO is the unacknowledged truth of the economic system.

[evilgenius]

I think the same thing that drives gamblers drives white males, the need for control. The thing is, while gamblers have this ability to see only when they win, white males are more than aware of their losses. In fact, as these losses point out their loss of control, they may appear larger to them than they are.

You can look at the impact of white males, and this is telling for it indicates that it isn't just white males this applies to, upon others and see what I am talking about. For instance, in the tech world, before it was the 'it' career, women used to do quite nicely while making far less than what tech now pays. Once males became interested enough in tech, once it was sexy to them, women started to fall out of favor and tech jobs started to buy houses. Oh, speaking of sex, how many times have we heard of some man, usually a white guy, but not always, killing either his wife/girlfriend, or his entire family because he saw love as possession and his loss of possession (ie control) meant so much to him that he thought their deaths best (being an affront to his control). Most of the time these real prize winners then turn the gun on themselves, but not always. Does it really come as any surprise when someone who has built up a type of personal empire, exercising control over their family, friends and anyone who comes into their realm wants to kill themselves if they lose their control over that empire?

The need to build control is fundamentally a lack of faith. Instead of building an intimacy with the universe, which is what faith requires when you have to admit you are not God yourself, the seeking of control establishes an antagonistic estrangement from it. It's a very hard thing to suddenly find yourself on the losing end of a worldview that sees life that way.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Hawkcreek', '
')Every regulation, every tax code, every resistriction tightens the noose a little more firmly. And all of them tend to do the same thing - push the poor into the servant class for the rich. Lately it is becoming more difficult for the elite to hide the facts. The only thing that saves them is that it is a somewhat "soft" slavery. You can live well if you don't protest too much. You can even join the elite club if you have the good fortune to find the tiny opening in the route to the top.

[onlooker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')ess cynical is my belief that starving the corporations by simply not participating in consumption is the most effective resistance. There is something passive and non violent and conscious about this path that I do believe will grow like a movement once this is underscored by consequences of human overshoot and upcoming constraints.

[Hawkcreek]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')Less cynical is my belief that starving the corporations by simply not participating in consumption is the most effective resistance. There is something passive and non violent and conscious about this path that I do believe will grow like a movement once this is underscored by consequences of human overshoot and upcoming constraints.

[Ibon]

Think about the children of white males watching their fathers on opiates or commiting suicide or just the milder form of enduring declining wage slave status. Think about these white males abandoning democrat liers and out of desparation voted for a corporatist. Think about these children and the greater deception that is to follow as this trend unfolds.

We are witnessing cultural transition as we speak. The crumbling credibility of institutions as those in power overtly try to enslave the middle class who will only awaken as time goes by. You stay asleep when consumption acts as a false compensation to an empty life. This lead their fathers into despair. This will not be the same for their children and following generations.

The early saplings of a generation with a spine and integrity is emerging. Take heart all, the times they are changing and a generation with nothing to lose is on the rise.