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I have invented a perpetual motion device

Unread postby J-Rod » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 00:21:01

Okay, I know you are skeptical. I was too before I started the research. After careful examination of many known laws of thermodynamics, I have come up with this, if I say so myself, INGENIOUS device. There are a few not so well known physical laws that have not really been touched on in this website. The two I am referring two were devised by professor Murphy, while in his tenure at Bowling Green in 1973.

#49 "All felines, when dropped from a height of more than 4 feet, will inevitably land on their feet."

#253 "A piece of buttered toast, when dropped to the floor, will always land butter side down."

These two laws are the basis of this invention, which will save the entire world and make me rich enough to afford ther harem I always wanted. When this device is dropped from a decent height, it will continually spin, generating enough electricity for all the worlds needs. We might need more cats though, and possibly more toast and butter. Let's hope we don't reach Peak Cats. Okay, enough said, take a look at the schematics of this device, don't even try to gyp me folks, I have already patented this. I'll take my Nobel now, kthx.

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(yes it's a horrible photoshop, sue me. ) :)
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Unread postby Jack » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 00:26:09

This would probably be more appropriate in open discussions; so I've moved the thread.

Side note: wouldn't the device have greater power if one applied strawberry jam to the bread?
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Unread postby EnergySpin » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 00:27:16

Kitty Kitty come to daddie!!!
Cool cat BTW, but I think after you power LA for a few days your generator is gonna look like Image
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Unread postby J-Rod » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 00:32:22

I had thought about jam, actually. However in all the field tests, it seemed that jam just didn't have as much effect as the butter. Also I couldn't find any known laws that involved the jam, just the butter, curiously enough.
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Unread postby El_Producto » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 01:03:07

haha, not bad.

Perpetual motion still doesnt make up for the fact im always gonna lose that toast if it slips out of my hand, though...
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Unread postby Vexed » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 02:43:45

I'm a private investor, and I must admit, I am very impressed with your design. Often times I see posts on PeakOil that seek to show how some unproven technology will suddenly scale up and save the day, but until now I have been consistently disappointed. I take it, of course, that you have an anonymous PO box I can send all my money too, right?
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Unread postby k_semler » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 02:50:02

1. The cat will outwiegh the buttered toast by a factor of 5 at least. This will not work due to the difference in wieght distrigution

2. Even if it was perfectly balanced, you would need about .001 Gs to make it even remotly possible, with a 0 resistance motor in a zero friction enviroment.

3. What the hell are you smoking/drinking? I really want some of that shit man! Keystone is starting to get less potent, and BC Bud doesn't exatcly stroke my money any more. Whatever you got, I want!- +1
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Unread postby Jaymax » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 08:08:41

Here we go again, someone else with yet another magic bullet for Peak Oil. You havn't even properly considered the EROEI have you...

Can you please show your calculations showing that the total energy inputs required to keep the cat alive, and provide fresh toast as required are less than the usable energy outputs?

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Unread postby Raxozanne » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 09:01:25

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That's great though I wouldn't want to think where the machinery is plugged into (the cat's ass?).

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Unread postby Wildwell » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 09:54:46

I'm just amused by the look on the cats face. :-D
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Unread postby J-Rod » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 11:12:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', '1'). The cat will outwiegh the buttered toast by a factor of 5 at least. This will not work due to the difference in wieght distrigution

2. Even if it was perfectly balanced, you would need about .001 Gs to make it even remotly possible, with a 0 resistance motor in a zero friction enviroment.


Actually, the laws that provide the reaction of a cat and the toast to contact with the ground provide the motivation for the rotation, regardless of weight distribution, that's what makes this so ingenious.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jaymax', 'C')an you please show your calculations showing that the total energy inputs required to keep the cat alive, and provide fresh toast as required are less than the usable energy outputs?


Of course. You think I'd patent such an application without testing? In my rigorous testing, I have found that stale bread, as long as it has butter will still always land butter side down. And, did you take into consideration that cats have not one, but NINE lives? The EROEI is something on the order of
1:63, depending on the source of your toast and butter. Of course this can also be improved if one uses stray alley cats, the issue there is you really don't know how many lives are remaining. I hope this has helped a bit. -JC
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Unread postby jackal42 » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 11:29:02

what if you got rid of the cat, and jsut butter the toast both sides?
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Unread postby Aaron » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 11:42:25

Or strap two cats back to back?
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Unread postby J-Rod » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 11:49:33

Now you guys are just peeing in my Cheerios. There is another known law of cancellation that comes into effect, when you have two instances of the same law in effect at the same time, they cancel each other out. In the previous 2 cases, the bonds keeping them back to back would break every time, as the law of cancellation is always exponentially stronger than the physical bond between the objects.
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Unread postby dinopello » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 12:14:46

An unexpected result - I have constructed a prototype and I cannot catch the cat, however it is generating quite a bit of energy trying to get the toast off her back. Interesting.
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Unread postby Ludi » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 15:27:00

Several people have invented that one simultaneously. So far, I don't believe it has been patented...
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Unread postby ArimoDave » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 22:53:51

We built one last spring. Unfortunately we found out some problems.

First, you need two pieces of toast, the cat effect is stronger than the buttered toast effect
by a factor of two to one.

Second, and this is why it is not a perpetual motion machine, is you need to feed and water the cat.
When the cat dies, the cat effect is negated. The cat winds up with its paws sticking straight up in the
air. Plugging the cat's rear with the shaft promotes early death of the cat due to colon impaction.
You, therefore, need a crank shaped shaft to mount the cat without plugging the exhaust holes.


So, the bottom line is you need to put in energy -- feeding the cat -- to keep the thing going. Also, you need
to provide an intial spin to get it started, otherwise it just vibrates.

We never did find out what happens when the toast becomes moldy, however, but we suspect
that if the toast goes bad, the machine may stop.

One might try buttering both sides of the toast. :-D

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Unread postby J-Rod » Sun 17 Jul 2005, 00:07:29

Maybe more study is needed. I have found that by using the fresh cats with all 9 lives, it can last a very long time. But of course, yes there is indeed energy input with the food and water. As far as the crankshaft, what I do is wrap the cat's tail around the pulley of the alternator, and as the cat spins the alternator stays put. initial motion is simple enough, you may have to stretch the tail a bit when you set it in motion, they don't mind. It's for the greater good. ;) Moldy toast in my experiments fell butter side down every time, Murphy was right in his calculations. I'll adjust my ERoEI numbers and get back to you guys at a later date. -JC
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Unread postby Sunspot » Sun 17 Jul 2005, 00:34:36

You may might not deserve a Nobel prize, but maybe we can arrange a

Cat-ass trophy...
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