[Pretorian]

Whatever was his motive, he was a muslim immigrant in a white country. If you think people ( Finns especially) did not notice it, and just thought he had a bit weird name for a Finn, then you are probably wasting your time with this thread.

[wisconsin_cur]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'W')hatever was his motive, he was a muslim immigrant in a white country. If you think people ( Finns especially) did not notice it, and just thought he had a bit weird name for a Finn, then you are probably wasting your time with this thread.

[OutOfGas]

It is very apparent that some Muslims will not assimilate in thier new countries.

I believe the US will see more honor killings and radical muslim terrorism.

The US is being Balkanized by our PC attitiude; that every one deserves to come and live here.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', '[')I believe that we can have differences of opinion without getting rude. If you think it is a big deal, this is a public forum. Perhaps you could contribute instead of complaining that I did not put it up here and see it your way.

[Fredrik]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'W')hatever was his motive, he was a muslim immigrant in a white country. If you think people ( Finns especially) did not notice it, and just thought he had a bit weird name for a Finn, then you are probably wasting your time with this thread.

[Joseph41]

I am totally agree with Mr.OutOfGas.

i think he provided us some useful information here.
So,
Follow according to him.

[Olaf]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hen resources become more scarce, there is the issue of who gets what. Many will band together for survival, and many will band along racial lines.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'I')t is my contention that as the nations and peoples of the globe re-evaluate their relative situations in light of a renewed perception of scarcity that we would see a rise in xenophobia and general intolerance of those who are different. The first victim of peak oil will be globalization, followed quickly by the value we place on diversity.

[ROCKMAN]

T - And one can make the generalization that this phenomenon has been present for centuries. The current uptick is more a function of who is responding and not that those feelings exists. Can go back to the US oil embargo on Japan in the 1930's, effect on native Americans by the decimation of the bison, etc.

Given how depletion of all resources, just like rust, never sleeps you might see such feelings growing in the more liberally minded populations.

[Newfie]

Nice post by Cur.

To go back further (Darwin) eusocial theory holds that in height social animals (birds excepted?) evolution occurs between colonies. One could postulate that our fuel filled recent past has feed us so heavily that our natural competitiveness was subdued. Not that scarcity it returning (to a western culture) we see our natural competitiveness reemerge. The old orders and colony borders have been blurred, but they are now being redrawn. The old order of things will return. For better or worse.

[Subjectivist]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'N')ice post by Cur.

To go back further (Darwin) eusocial theory holds that in height social animals (birds excepted?) evolution occurs between colonies. One could postulate that our fuel filled recent past has feed us so heavily that our natural competitiveness was subdued. Not that scarcity it returning (to a western culture) we see our natural competitiveness reemerge. The old orders and colony borders have been blurred, but they are now being redrawn. The old order of things will return. For better or worse.

[KaiserJeep]

Eight years ago, I comforted myself with the thought that at least with a Black POTUS, the problem with race relations here in America would get solved. However Barack Obama did nothing whatsoever to heal this problem, his actions amounted to intensifying the existing problems, and today we have more of a racial divide than when he took office.

It is all too possible that when the post-oil-peak economy slumps some more, that the blighted inner city areas will feel the pinch far more acutely than more prosperous places. It is possible that widespread rioting and destruction will spread across America, as it has periodically erupted in all our large cities in prior decades. In fact, it is possible that the second Civil War fought in the USA will be a race war. Nothing has been done to heal the race divide by Barack Obama or anybody else, and the inner cities contain the biggest concentrations of racists that possibly have ever existed here, and they are not white.

Perhaps the USA and Yugoslavia are not so different after all. Ask yourself what Donald Trump - or for that matter Clinton or even Sanders - would do if the USA attempted to carve itself into independent countries where you had to be White or Black or Hispanic to live in a specific area.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', 'E')ight years ago, I comforted myself with the thought that at least with a Black POTUS, the problem with race relations here in America would get solved. However Barack Obama did nothing whatsoever to heal this problem, his actions amounted to intensifying the existing problems, and today we have more of a racial divide than when he took office.

It is all too possible that when the post-oil-peak economy slumps some more, that the blighted inner city areas will feel the pinch far more acutely than more prosperous places. It is possible that widespread rioting and destruction will spread across America, as it has periodically erupted in all our large cities in prior decades. In fact, it is possible that the second Civil War fought in the USA will be a race war. Nothing has been done to heal the race divide by Barack Obama or anybody else, and the inner cities contain the biggest concentrations of racists that possibly have ever existed here, and they are not white.

Perhaps the USA and Yugoslavia are not so different after all. Ask yourself what Donald Trump - or for that matter Clinton or even Sanders - would do if the USA attempted to carve itself into independent countries where you had to be White or Black or Hispanic to live in a specific area.

[ROCKMAN]

Sub - "I have had hate spewed at me for nothing other than the color of my skin or my anatomy." Oh, I'm sure there were a number of other good reasons. LOL.

And it looks like I may be stuck on a well with crappy Internet this weekend so I'll wish you a HAPPY 2017!!! today, bubba.

[KaiserJeep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', ' ')-snip-

What are people of mixed ancestry supposed to do in that situation? I have relatives and friends that range all across the spectrum based on on skin color but more on social level. Working class/lower middle class tend to be a rainbow especially in an agricultural area like where I live. Hispanic migrant workers have traveled across this landscape since long before I was born following the harvest of fresh vegetables and fruits that are difficult to mechanically harvest. I have blood relatives that are European/African mix, Hispanic/European mix, Asian/European mix and even European/Amerindian mix. Where do they fit into this future monochromatic society?

[Newfie]

KJ,
I Was in that same boot camp in 72.
A - I'm amazed at how much you remember.
B - I don't recall a single black guy.

Perhaps the difference was I was there on the cusp of the end of the war. I was a marked man with a 99 and no further deferments. Perhaps many others didn't have the pressure and that accounts for the difference. I don't know.

[Newfie]

T
"What will those of mixed race do?"
I don't know. Perhaps they will form their own community. Perhaps they will be among the first to perish,or become an under class?

It's a live question for me as my Wife and DIL are both immigrants, although my Wife is German. But even that is an issue, subtle but I can see it there off and on. Just a slight change in attitude, usually positive ( which in itself is interesting) but sometimes negative. She is oblivious, which itself is interesting as she can be an exceptional perceptive person.

It's all fascinating, in a deeply disturbing way.