[Tuike]

Ex chairman of the finnish green party Osmo Soininvaara was interviewed in todays Helsingin Sanomat. In his vision Kyoto treaty is expanded in 2009, where all countries in the world take part. Most even voluntairly. In 2012 the treaty is still expanded to fossil fuels. Every country will be given a quota how much they can consume oil and other fossil fuels. A solid price will be set for oil so that economy wouldn't crash because of too high price of oil. Quota on oil consumption would decrease greenhouse gases.

Soininvaara admits, that his vision is rather utopistic and it doesn't have any realism at all. He adds that there are signs that USA is looking for a military solution for peak oil. In fact the war in Iraq was because of oil.

In the end Soininvaara says that he is rather optimistic even though we are running out of oil. There are a lot of useless oil consumption that we can live without.

[shakespear1]

Utopic is an understatement.

He assumes that in face of shortage people can behave rationally. I won't bet my bicycle on that

[b0nez]

And if you take away a crackheads crack,they'll be happy and get on with productive lives..Riiiiiiight

Someone really needs to explain to these folks what the definition of "addicted" and "junkie" actually means.

[MD]

A quick search on "mob psychology" should suffice

[Barbara]

Never underestimate those Scandinavian when it comes on utopies...

[Eli]

I for one hope he can get his fellow country men to follow suit.

The more pacified they are the easier they will be conquered and there oil stolen.

It is far more likely that the end of the oil age will be like feeding 5 dogs out of one bowl.

[kerosene]

Must agree that the naivete (spelling?) of my fellow countryman Soininvaara is beyond any scale.

To his defence the phrase "in a perfect world" kind sets the tone.

In a perfect world there would be plentifull of non-polluting energy, I would be rich as a pig and I would get Hugh Hefner's job.

heikki

[bart]

I feel sad about the cynicism.

We've just lived through the most selfish and individualistic period in human history, fueled by a triumphalist capitalism and cheap-cheap energy. It's a mistake to generalize about human nature and what is possible on the basis of the last 25 years (since Reagan and Thatcher).

It doesn't take courage to be cynical.

Going against the tide, believing in something -- that takes courage.

[agni]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bart', 'I') feel sad about the cynicism.

We've just lived through the most selfish and individualistic period in human history, fueled by a triumphalist capitalism and cheap-cheap energy. It's a mistake to generalize about human nature and what is possible on the basis of the last 25 years (since Reagan and Thatcher).

It doesn't take courage to be cynical.

Going against the tide, believing in something -- that takes courage.

[jaakkeli]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'I') for one hope he can get his fellow country men to follow suit.

The more pacified they are the easier they will be conquered and there oil stolen.

[Tuike]

Our water supplies could be a reason to invade Finland. We have plenty of fresh water supplies, while the world struggles in drough. There was in news that a Saudi-Arabians bought a finnish company, that makes bottled water...

[jaakkeli]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tuike', 'O')ur water supplies could be a reason to invade Finland. We have plenty of fresh water supplies, while the world struggles in drough. There was in news that a Saudi-Arabians bought a finnish company, that makes bottled water...