[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'A')ll fiat money is illusion, expressions of trust.

[Cog]

When a homeless guy asks to bum some money off you, simply tell him "Money is an illusion and you would be better off without it."

Post results here.

[Tikib]

Nothing has any value.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tikib', 'N')othing has any value.

[Pops]

not a thing in this world worth a solitary dime but

lol no wonder I need gov support, too much grey space devoted to drinkin songs

[Newfie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'W')hen a homeless guy asks to bum some money off you, simply tell him "Money is an illusion and you would be better off without it."

Post results here.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tikib', 'N')othing has any value.

[Shaved Monkey]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'W')hen a homeless guy asks to bum some money off you, simply tell him "Money is an illusion and you would be better off without it."

Post results here.

[Newfie]

Shaved,
While I don't know about your neck of the woods here in the USA there are a wide range of homeless. Some, too many, like yours.

But we also have the very visible who and drugger community that is on the stree, in your window, in your face. Poor and miserable souls they are. But giving them a fiver is no guarantee they will use it as you wish. Food seems to be of little concern, they eat relatively well, if undignified, dumpster diving behind nice hotels. Showers, restrooms, and beds are their issue. A casual fiver isn't gonna fix that.

I think Cog and I had the same general image, I hope.

[vtsnowedin]

To close out this thread I'll say that I have applied for and been approved for benefits starting in May. I'm thinking about building up a stock portfolio with a good share of the money to build the family wealth in a way that will outlast me.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tikib', 'N')othing has any value.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shaved Monkey', '
')Australia stopped paying SS security to Kiwis for 10 years but we can go to NZ and get SS and citizenship straight up.
If I go and retire in NZ I can also get my pension nearly 3 years earlier and my private super and assets arent counted so my pension doesnt reduce even if Im filthy rich.

[Shaved Monkey]

In Australia it reduces depending on how much money you have.

It really is whether its considered a basic wage or a subsidy for the poor.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shaved Monkey', 'I')n Australia it reduces depending on how much money you have.

It really is whether its considered a basic wage or a subsidy for the poor.

[Cog]

I don't think you are correct about that VT. My wife will draw social security just as I will. She will draw less because she made less in her career than I did. If our wages would have been equal over our working lives, she would draw the same as I would. If I die, she can draw a greater amount using my social security as her basis.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'I') don't think you are correct about that VT. My wife will draw social security just as I will. She will draw less because she made less in her career than I did. If our wages would have been equal over our working lives, she would draw the same as I would. If I die, she can draw a greater amount using my social security as her basis.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'C')og, vt you are pair of socialist saps you. That money the government stole is not coming back. Peak oil collapse, astronomical gov/private debt, and explosive hyperinflation will compost those IOU's into garbage. Should of invested your life and earnings in the underground economy. Pot farming was the way to go. Not with illegal unconstitutional government takings.

[Cog]

It wasn't like it was an option for me to opt out of social security. Its the law that my employer withdrew it from my paycheck and matched it. Had it been my option I would have invested it in the market. Like VT, it is a part of my future income(or its not) but my investments are the larger part.

If everything goes to hell as the doomers predict(pray for daily) then I will be poor. I've been poor before.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shaved Monkey', 'I')n Australia it reduces depending on how much money you have.

It really is whether its considered a basic wage or a subsidy for the poor.