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Hillary Clinton Pt. 2
Re: Hillary Clinton Pt. 2
by Subjectivist » Fri 04 Nov 2016, 20:24:14
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kiwichick', '+')1 sixstrings.....as a non American , I would rank FDR as one of the US's best president ever.....with Obama at #1 and Lincoln #2
Really? Obama?
The guys been a AWG disaster and his foreign policies have made Libia and Syria much worse.
Now, if you are comparing him to the Bushes or Regan maybe. But against Carter, and Eisenhauer surely not.
I would rate him about equal with Nixon and Johnson and Bill Clinton. They all did good things but lost their way. Above the Bushes, below FDR, Eisenhauer, Truman, Kennedy or Carter.
You highly rate Johnson, who hauled several hundred thousand young americans off to nam to kill or be killed? Seriously?
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Re: Hillary Clinton Pt. 2
by Newfie » Fri 04 Nov 2016, 20:41:00
I did NOT highly rate Johnson. I had a low pack, a mid pack and an upper pack. Johnson was in the middle.
These things are highly subjective and I'm open to rearranging this, it's an off the cuff statement. My thinking was yes he made some terrible blunders. He did also push through equal rights much against portions of his own party and he declined to run for a second term. He said he couldn't run the country and run for President at the same time. I think he was worn out and to some extent did the honera me thing by stepping aside to let new blood run the show.
Johnson was trying to get out of Nam. Nixon and Kiasinger were undermining that process by encouraging the North to wait for Nixon who would give them a better deal.
If you like think of the groups as
Low .... Abbismal
Medium ... Really bad
Upper....merely poor to OK
These things are highly subjective and I'm open to rearranging this, it's an off the cuff statement. My thinking was yes he made some terrible blunders. He did also push through equal rights much against portions of his own party and he declined to run for a second term. He said he couldn't run the country and run for President at the same time. I think he was worn out and to some extent did the honera me thing by stepping aside to let new blood run the show.
Johnson was trying to get out of Nam. Nixon and Kiasinger were undermining that process by encouraging the North to wait for Nixon who would give them a better deal.
If you like think of the groups as
Low .... Abbismal
Medium ... Really bad
Upper....merely poor to OK
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Re: Hillary Clinton Pt. 2
by vtsnowedin » Fri 04 Nov 2016, 22:14:57
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'I') did NOT highly rate Johnson. I had a low pack, a mid pack and an upper pack. Johnson was in the middle.
These things are highly subjective and I'm open to rearranging this, it's an off the cuff statement. My thinking was yes he made some terrible blunders. He did also push through equal rights much against portions of his own party and he declined to run for a second term. He said he couldn't run the country and run for President at the same time. I think he was worn out and to some extent did the honera me thing by stepping aside to let new blood run the show.
That's not how I remember it. He withdrew when it became clear after the New Hampshire primary he was going to lose.These things are highly subjective and I'm open to rearranging this, it's an off the cuff statement. My thinking was yes he made some terrible blunders. He did also push through equal rights much against portions of his own party and he declined to run for a second term. He said he couldn't run the country and run for President at the same time. I think he was worn out and to some extent did the honera me thing by stepping aside to let new blood run the show.
Wiki has it this way.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')n March 12, McCarthy won 42% of the primary vote to Johnson's 49%, an extremely strong showing for such a challenger, and one which gave McCarthy's campaign legitimacy and momentum. In a surprise move on March 16, Robert F. Kennedy renounced his earlier support for Johnson and proclaimed his candidacy. McCarthy and his supporters viewed this as opportunism, creating a lasting enmity between the campaigns.
Johnson withdraws
Johnson was now faced with two strong primary challenges. In declining health and facing bleak political forecasts in the upcoming primaries,[1] Johnson believed that he could not win the nomination without a major political and personal struggle.
On March 31, 1968, the President startled the nation by ending a televised address regarding the War by announcing he would not seek re-election. By withdrawing from the race, he could avoid the stigma of defeat and could keep control of the party machinery to support Hubert Humphrey, his loyal Vice President.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrati ... _withdraws
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