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wherein lies the hope?
wherein lies the hope?
by onlooker » Sun 23 Oct 2016, 18:39:19
Since, I have been here on Peak Oil.com, I have been privy too much interesting, enlightening and engaging discourse and ideas. From different perspectives we have argued about why we have reached this point as a species, what responses we may be able to muster, what needs to be done, what no longer is under our control etc. I now am hoping to delve with all of you deeper into the psychological and social directions we have taken and will take. Our world has a history of much acrimony and conflict, of injustices and unequal treatment of each other. I am suggesting that if and when we can perhaps build a better world it will not be simply because we can self regulate ourselves and be more circumspect and display more foresight. It will transcend these factors and be ultimately about us learning truly to live in harmony with each other. I feel that much of the misery and unhappiness throughout our history is self inflicted upon each other. So, we can solve all the material tangible problems that are required to allow us to live in a sustainable manner within the parameters of the Environment but can we ever truly live well among and with each other which is just as important as living in harmony with nature? This I feel is an important question because our insecurities,phobias and patterns of unstable and reckless behavior I believe can to a large degree be traced to our uncomfortable and tension filled relation with each other which in turn is borne out of our primitive urges and emotions Thoughts?
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Re: wherein lies the hope?
by Newfie » Sun 23 Oct 2016, 20:23:10
My thoughts?
We're screwed. Flat line learning curve over any meaningful time scale. Perhaps some near extinction event will force us to evolve. Perhaps not, I think that more likely. Perhaps we won't survive the event.
I have t much hope for humanity.
What hope I have is to help my kids survive and thrive no matter what comes. That ain't looking so hot. Time will tell. But I'm retired and having a ball!
We're screwed. Flat line learning curve over any meaningful time scale. Perhaps some near extinction event will force us to evolve. Perhaps not, I think that more likely. Perhaps we won't survive the event.
I have t much hope for humanity.
What hope I have is to help my kids survive and thrive no matter what comes. That ain't looking so hot. Time will tell. But I'm retired and having a ball!
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Re: wherein lies the hope?
by Ibon » Sun 23 Oct 2016, 23:19:36
The hope lies in the simple fact that humans are as adaptive as cock roaches and rats.
Patiently awaiting the pathogens. Our resiliency resembles an invasive weed. We are the Kudzu Ape
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Re: wherein lies the hope?
by AdamB » Mon 24 Oct 2016, 10:56:54
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', 'S')ince, I have been here on Peak Oil.com, I have been privy too much interesting, enlightening and engaging discourse and ideas. From different perspectives we have argued about why we have reached this point as a species, what responses we may be able to muster, what needs to be done, what no longer is under our control etc.
We need to lessen our dependence on petroleum. Some of us have. Others appear to just enjoy the death of forests and sea mammals while happily getting a buzz on.
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')Whether there is the opportunity is doubtful.
Some of us have already taken the opportunity, and converted opportunity to accomplishment. We have invited others to join us, but the resistance among the buzzed and eco-system destruction set is high.
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')We don't have enough readily available energy stores (in the form of coal, oil nuclear and alts) to both maintain the current system, and develop another concurrently.
Such was the claim during the peak oil days as well. But we did it anyway, and are continuing to this day, regardless of what the buzzed and eco-destroyers think.
Places like Ivanpah having come online since the bad old peak oil days.
For those who appear to be stuck in the oil peak oil funk, I recommend nothing more than looking around at the changes that peak oil a decade or so ago wrought, and then chill out already. Those who aren't myopic are already well on the way to solving the problem for you, whether you like it or not.
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