[Plantagenet]

As I predicted, Hillary is cleared of all charges.

The Obama administration decided she was too big to jail.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', 'D')o you really know that for sure or did the Clinton machine just count all the black votes for her regardless of how they actually voted.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'P')utin just gave a major speech today denying the Russians are behind the hacks.

[Sixstrings]

Now having said all the above --

Let's all talk about the wikileaks. There should be another thread for that, really.

The worst things I've heard was just a bit on the news I saw, something about an "enrichment circle" or something, that the Clinton Foundation had.

And I don't know the details, something about a $66 million kickback Bill got?

So look folks, this is ALL interesting stuff. If there's something awful about the Clintons, in those wikileaks, then YES let's TALK about it.

I just haven't seen anything -- I read those "secret bankers speeches," and she just sounds like old Ronald Reagan to me. I liked those speeches, she should have released them.

She quoted churchill, she's tough on China but reasonable too and thinks deeply and complexly about the global situation.

Nowhere in those speeches did she say, "oh, we the Establishment really just need to make everyone so much poorer and screw over the working class." She did not say that, ANYWHERE. Rather, she talked about how to make government work, and bring everyone together.

I liked the UFO's part, that was cool.

But okay, let's get to the AWFUL things in the wikileaks.

So what are they?

This $66 million kickback thing, is that the worst thing?

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', 'D')o you really know that for sure or did the Clinton machine just count all the black votes for her regardless of how they actually voted.

[Sixstrings]

Okay, I've looked over the washington post article about the "circle of enrichment:"

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Inside ‘Bill Clinton Inc.’: Hacked memo reveals intersection of charity and personal income
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-bill-clinton-inc-hacked-memo-reveals-intersection-of-charity-and-personal-income/2016/10/26/3bf84bba-9b92-11e6-b3c9-f662adaa0048_story.html

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', 'W')hy doesn't he talk about that? Are you sure he hasn't or did your favorite media just edit it out to meet the hard commercial breaks?

[vtsnowedin]

The fact that you can call that business as usual and not a problem speaks ill of your intelligence level.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', 'W')hy doesn't he talk about that? Are you sure he hasn't or did your favorite media just edit it out to meet the hard commercial breaks?

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', 'T')he fact that you can call that business as usual and not a problem speaks ill of your intelligence level.

[Sixstrings]

I was watching msnbc and they had independent candidate from Utah, Evan McMullin, on chris matthews show.

And he said "Donald Trump has invited Vladimir Putin into our elections system."

So look folks, it's not just me saying this.

And I don't want to rant and rave about Russia, and I'm not even russophobe, and really my views would actually be a LOT more Putin's Russia friendly than what our congress is.

Goodness, if it were up to me I'd say give them Syria if it's at all possible. And drop sanctions, and recognize Crimea, and accept a frozen conflict in east ukraine -- BUT THEN there'd be a REAL red line for West Ukraine, and FULL US SUPPORT and the compromise would have to be Russia has to stay out of there. So see, that's fair.

And the Baltics, and rest of Europe -- no "crimeas" would be acceptable, anywhere else, not the Baltics nor Sweden nor anywhere in Europe.

On values -- look folks, Russia is mostly far right in their politics. And Putin, effectively, is a dictator and "strongman" leader. It's okay for Russia, and I'm so sympathetic about Russia I even say they shouldn't be expected to change and be like Europe (Russia has a different history, and complexities, and has a more conservative culture).

But one thing I would NEVER do, is say all the kinds of stuff Trump has said, AND like his campaign staff has said over in Moscow -- Carter Page TRASHED democracy. So why did he do that? Was he currying favor? Why?

What American doesn't approve of democracy, it makes no sense to me. Page was over there saying things that the Kremlin just wants to hear -- and then, Trump himself says things, constantly, that the Kremlin just loves to hear.

So whatever, that was 100% I had to vote HRC.

[Sixstrings]

Saw this on Foxnews.com, Iraq war vet writes about why he's for Clinton:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Why this Iraq War veteran is supporting Hillary Clinton

From the moment I stepped off the bus and onto those world-famous yellow footprints at Marine Corps Recruit Depot Parris Island, South Carolina, the U.S. Marine Corps constantly drilled into me – and every other Marine recruit – the importance of one being able to maintain their bearing.

Throughout this entire campaign (and her career in public service), Secretary Hillary Clinton has shown that she, more than anyone else running – and certainly more than Donald Trump, knows how to maintain her bearing.

She’s shown that she has the acumen to lead under pressure and she’s presented her case without bringing dishonor upon herself or embarrassing our country.

Secretary Clinton is aptly prepared, on day one, to serve as president of the United States and commander-in-chief. She will keep our nation safe. She will destroy our enemies.

Mrs. Clinton will also ensure our veterans – my fellow veterans – are welcomed home from service not simply with more standing ovations at football games, but with quality health care that’s delivered through a strong, fully-funded and fully-staffed VA; welcomed home not with more yellow ribbons, but with what we need more than anything else: a job – a good job that allows one to live a life with dignity and live out the American Dream that we fought to protect and defend.

On the other hand, her opponent, Mr. Trump, is the most unqualified, unfit, and unequipped candidate for the presidency that our nation has ever put forward.

Mr. Trump has no plan to keep us safe. Well, he says he has a plan, but he won’t share any pieces of it, aside from leveling attacks against our military, speaking in a terrifyingly careless way about our nuclear arsenal, being fickle with our allies, and fawning over dictators like Vladimir Putin and Sadam Hussein.

Mr. Trump has no plan for veterans. Sure he likes to use us as political props, but what else? He’s said that he doesn’t support the GI Bill. He wants to destroy and privatize our VA. And when it comes to jobs, he’s been quoted as saying that he believes that wages for American workers – including millions veterans – are already “too high.”

And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

There are 14 Marine Corps leadership traits: justice, judgement, dependability, initiative, decisiveness, tact, integrity, enthusiasm, bearing, unselfishness, courage, knowledge, loyalty, and endurance. There isn’t a single trait from this list that Mr. Trump possesses. Not one.

For almost two years, we’ve had to endure Mr. Trump and his charlantry. Each day he’s showcased for the world his fascist proposals, racist ideas, sexist viewpoints, and anti-American values.

But there’s good news: Our long onerous slog through the bright orange Trump muck is nearly complete. Mr. Trump’s campaign is sputtering on what toxic fumes are left in the tank.

In all likelihood Secretary Hillary Clinton will soon be president-Elect Hillary Clinton, and you, me, our nation, and the world will be better for it.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/27/why-this-marine-veteran-is-supporting-hillary-clinton.html

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]This Hillary Clinton Ad may Bring you to Tears | War Hero | Hillary Clinton Web Ad
https://youtu.be/RaxNEzA3jRs

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Trump says Clinton is too tough on Putin
‘‘She speaks very badly of Putin, and I don’t think that’s smart,’’ Trump said. ‘‘How do you speak so badly of someone?’’
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/10/27/donald-trump-says-hillary-clinton-too-tough-putin/Qw0TaHzmWZCFHImQmocFaM/story.html

[dohboi]

So tell me, 6S--Clinton accepts the scientific consensus around AGW (even if some of her policies do not seem to reflect that), while Trump has said that he thinks GW is a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese.

Are you more in the Trump camp these days on that issue, or are you now aligning yourself more with Clinton here?

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', 'D')o you really know that for sure or did the Clinton machine just count all the black votes for her regardless of how they actually voted.

[Plantagenet]

Keep your eyes open for paid pro-Clinton trolls. The Clinton campaign just admitted that they are paying "an army" of folks to post pro-Clinton stuff on internet sites.

clinton-campaign-admit-they-pay-an-army-of-trolls

Most of the paid Clinton trolls are spending their time at huge web sites like "Reddit" but its not impossible we may get some posts from paid Trolls at this website as well.

Cheers!


The Clitonistas are paying an "army of trolls" to boost Hillary on internet websites

[dohboi]

A third of pro-Trump tweets are generated by bots

http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/18/technol ... y-clinton/

Sooo, do we basically have a war between trolls and bots??

Anyone wanna come forward to confess that they are one or the other???

[vtsnowedin]

It amazes me that Democrats can vote for Hillary even after the latest revelations about there money raising activities.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10 ... harge.html

[dohboi]

It doesn't amaze me that some are voting for Trump.

Because lots of people are just stupid, and they stupidly think expressing their (generally perfectly legitimate) anger is more important than anything else. But they, and all of us, will end up regretting it. But, like Brexit, too late.

For a short term thrill to use the voting booth as an anger management tool, to shout out a huge FU to the system, they are willing to risk the entire democracy and perhaps the world (when he gets those stubby little fingers on The Button... ).

More (and Moore) here: https://twitter.com/MMFlint/status/791828594809008128

Meanwhile, more bad news for Trump, good for Clinton:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-economy ... 1477657992

U.S. Economy Roars Back, Grew 2.9% in Third Quarter
Growth rate was the fastest recorded in two years after expanding an anemic 1.4% in the second quarter