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Is the entertainment industry the PO indicator?

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Is the entertainment industry the PO indicator?

Postby larrydallas » Wed 13 Jul 2005, 05:24:59

I know what you are thinking. In the great depression era the film industry thrived because people went to the movies to forget their troubles. Times have changed and I am inclined to think people still go to the movies to forget troubles but they go to escape from being over worked, stressed out, and just because it has become such a part of the culture to go.

Anyway, for the past decade or so the movie theather revenues have been way down when compared to the past. Music sales both in store and online downloads have been way down in the past 5 or so years.

You could attribute this to technology and piracy but I sometimes think this sort of liesure industry will collapse first.

Entertainment does not mean just movies and song. It can be stuff like horseback riding joints, golf courses, auto races, etc...

I'm inclined to think these industries have done well this far and so close to if not already past PO becasue people just do not want to deal with the fact that life without cheap energy will never be the same so they have wrecklessly continued a course of money allocation as was back when gas was 99 cents and there were no major wars going on. In other words, rather than face up to the fact that the kids can no longer learn to ride horses on the weekend the parents will go into debt and finance lessons on a credit card to not have to deal with the fact that they can not do what they were once able to do.

I kind of predict a rapid decline of the entertainment industry right before the PO situation hits the vital sectors of the society like healthcare and education.

On a side note, the films and shows which have been produced in the last couple of years have more and more portrayals of militarization of law enforcement and the govt. being the savior / all knowing.

Seems like primer for the paint that is going to be dumped on the clueless masses.

Here's a page that updates almost daily with some good reading about how stupid the average Joe is:

http://www.vault-co.com/
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Postby Ludi » Wed 13 Jul 2005, 08:17:53

I work in the entertainment industry and work has been very good this year, quite steady without much time off. Whenever we finish a job (I work with my husband in our home business) we get a new one right away. So for us, it's actually been somewhat better than usual this year.
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Postby Roy » Wed 13 Jul 2005, 09:12:42

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')On a side note, the films and shows which have been produced in the last couple of years have more and more portrayals of militarization of law enforcement and the govt. being the savior / all knowing.


I remember the first time I watched "Escape from New York" back in, I think '86.

I thought, wow, look how they're portraying the cops. This movie is way out there.

I watched that movie again last year and was shocked at how much the sci-fi movie cops from 86 looked like the real thing now. Are they "preparing" us for the future?

You're onto something here Larry.
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Re: Is the entertainment industry the PO indicator?

Postby Doly » Wed 13 Jul 2005, 09:14:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('larrydallas', '
')On a side note, the films and shows which have been produced in the last couple of years have more and more portrayals of militarization of law enforcement and the govt. being the savior / all knowing.


Which specific films are you thinking of?
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Re: Is the entertainment industry the PO indicator?

Postby Z » Wed 13 Jul 2005, 10:12:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('larrydallas', 'H')ere's a page that updates almost daily with some good reading about how stupid the average Joe is:

http://www.vault-co.com/


This guy is seriously sick.

http://www.chclibrary.org/micromed/00059820.html
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Entertainment post-peak

Postby DoctorDoom » Wed 13 Jul 2005, 12:39:01

You don't have to be a brain surgeon to figure that stuff like air travel, the hotel industry, destination resorts, are all going to take a big hit post-peak. I believe film, television, music, and video games will rise to fill the void. Local fun activities may perk up as people try things like minature golf, lazer tag, etc., in place of energy-gulping trips to destination amusement parks clear across the country. In a real power-down, live performances will come back. People always need some leisure activities, even in the worst of times.
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Postby julianj » Wed 13 Jul 2005, 14:21:37

Z: please don't post links to psychiatric disorders sites, I go there and realise I HAVE ALL THE SYMPTOMS OF THAT PARTICULAR DELUSION!!!!

And yes, they are really out to get me :)
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Postby shakespear1 » Wed 13 Jul 2005, 14:57:28

I tend to think that there is over saturation of "entertainment" which has gotten to the point of boredom.

Hollywood is "remaking", re everything and little comes out that is original and fresh.

The actors seem to pop out from the same cookie cutter and "special effects" (for my taste) don't dazzel as much as they used to. The whole experience at time does not seem real.

Maybe I have been looking at Hoolywood movies too long :roll:

Mainstream Music industry churns out music that uses the same "formula" and has the feel that perhaps a computer program is doing it all. Where are the real artists? :x
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Postby sklump » Wed 13 Jul 2005, 17:05:34

Few leading-edge 2005 artists will emerge from a nation drugged to conformity and cowed into viewing the world through a prism of 1955.

That being said, 'Napoleon Dynamite' was flippin' awesome. Apart from that, I'm afraid I haven't seen anything to make me say 'wow' off US screens. Wait a sec, 'South Park' continues to be excellent and Jon Stewart rocks. I haven't seen any recent 'King of the Hill', but 'The Simpsons' has completely bottomed out.

'Curb Your Enthusiasm' is tremendous. Larry David should keep making TV for ever and ever.

Strangely, Canadian stuff has been better than ever in the last 5ish years: 'Monday Report', 'Trailer Park Boys', 'The Tournament', 'L'Gros Show', 'Les Deux Minutes du Peuple', 'Twitch City', 'The Newsroom', etc.

We don't get Fox on Cable. Coincidence?
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Postby Ludi » Wed 13 Jul 2005, 20:55:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roy', ' ') Are they "preparing" us for the future?



The motion picture industry is reactive, not proactive. The industry mainly exists to make money, those in the positions of greatest power are the producers, who generally are interested in making money. So the films that tend to get made are those which are most like those which made money in the recent past. This is why there are so few good films, original films. The motion picture industry in general is very cowardly.
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Re: Is the entertainment industry the PO indicator?

Postby larrydallas » Wed 13 Jul 2005, 23:44:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('larrydallas', '
')On a side note, the films and shows which have been produced in the last couple of years have more and more portrayals of militarization of law enforcement and the govt. being the savior / all knowing.


Which specific films are you thinking of?



The show 24 on Fox network is one that comes to mind.

However, a most recent one that is very disturbing is National Treasure which is a PG movie made for kids and families.

When they raid Nick Cage's apartment the police is dressed like storm troopers with assault weapons and full body armour. That movie also kinds of glazes over the occult connections of the Freemasons.

Google this : http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe ... an&spell=1

I have not done years of study on this topic so I can't verify anything on those pages so maybe someone else here knows more about it and would share.

Anyway, I just dislike this sort of indoctrination.

A MAJOR EXAMPLE of blatant propoganda was in the 2004 remake of Night of the Living Dead. In the opening credits there is a 2-4 second shot of Muslims in prayer as they are kneeling to God. There are no Muslim characters in the movie or any Islamic themes. The movie is full of bad things occuring to people and having seen that tiny shot of the prayer makes your mind associate the bad things with the religion.

The DVD version has this fake newscast bonus feature thing where they say that people in the middle east did mass suicides when the walking dead started attacking that part of the world. In other words, they don't put up a fight in the middle east.

It sounds stupid to someone who can see the tricks they use but to someone who is unaware they subconsciously form these thinking patterns and get these ideas in their minds.

I urge you to see that movie. It's chilling how obvious the trick is when there is a resource war going on and hate of the enemy as well as confidence that he can be defeated with ease need to created.
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