[Tikib]

Having watched the train wreck of peak oil approach the human race for 20 years now, I just gotta say we have been pathetic.

Scientists and engineers have been warning about peak oil since the 1960's but despite this it was only in the early 00's we got serious about alternative energy.

And as many people on here well know the oil depletion problem isn't just about energy it's about infrastructure, you need enough energy to replace both electric and transportation usage AND the infrastructure to do it. So its something that would take a long time to do.

Also we have concentrated almost all of our funding on traditional wind and solar even though the higher eroei's necessary to comfortably replace fossil fuels are found in
high altitude wind and thorium/fusion reactors.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tikib', ' ')the oil depletion problem ....you need enough energy to replace both electric and transportation usage AND the infrastructure to do it. So its something that would take a long time to do.

[Rod_Cloutier]

At least we are raping the Earth efficiently:

https://youtu.be/CpdZyJ0Y1jE?t=4s

[Tikib]

In order to replace oil economically you need an extremely cheap source of energy so that you can then convert it into all the things that oil does (and perhaps in some cases generate synthetic oil) neither wind nor solar are that cheap yet (and they may never be).

You also need to build all the electric cars, trucks, tractors ships etc that are the workhouses of our economy.

And as he says run extra powerlines to charge all these things.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', ' ')we need TO REPLACE THE INFRASTRUCTURE !

[radon1]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tikib', 'n')either wind nor solar are that cheap yet (and they may never be).

[StarvingLion]

The arrogant delusional dreamers called university physicists are now betting the farm on this:

http://www.trialphaenergy.com/

another magic fusion box which requires 10x the temp of D-D fusion

That doesn't even solve the propulsion problem which is harder than the free electricity generator problem.

[mmasters]

The US has 20-30 years worth of natural gas for use in transportation and electricity.

[StarvingLion]

Here is the problem to be solved: take out the diesel engine of a large tractor and replace it with some other device with the same dimensions and power characteristics that runs on some fuel derived from sea water.

Pretty easy, huh?

Go to any popular Economist forum. Those mental retards are so dumb they don't even know there is a problem.

[StarvingLion]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', 'T')he US has 20-30 years worth of natural gas for use in transportation and electricity.

[radon1]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('StarvingLion', 'T')he arrogant delusional dreamers called university physicists are now betting the farm on this:

http://www.trialphaenergy.com/

another magic fusion box which requires 10x the temp of D-D fusion

That doesn't even solve the propulsion problem which is harder than the free electricity generator problem.

[Newfie]

Solar panels, wind generator, controller, dump, mounts, wiring, labor and maintenance. Yeah, real cheap.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('StarvingLion', ' ')
Saudi Arabia has 30 years of 10M barrels/day production of oil with no decline.

[StarvingLion]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'S')olar panels, wind generator, controller, dump, mounts, wiring, labor and maintenance. Yeah, real cheap.

[StarvingLion]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('StarvingLion', ' ')
Saudi Arabia has 30 years of 10M barrels/day production of oil with no decline.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('StarvingLion', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('StarvingLion', ' ')
Saudi Arabia has 30 years of 10M barrels/day production of oil with no decline.

[Hawkcreek]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('StarvingLion', 'H')ere is the problem to be solved: take out the diesel engine of a large tractor and replace it with some other device with the same dimensions and power characteristics that runs on some fuel derived from sea water.

Pretty easy, huh?

Go to any popular Economist forum. Those mental retards are so dumb they don't even know there is a problem.