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')But by all means, let us know what these "reasons" are. Your post makes it pretty clear you think these reasons are valid. Lemme guess, does it have something to do with white privilege?
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Re: Dallas Sniper 7/7/2016
by Hawkcreek » Wed 20 Jul 2016, 23:52:20
Naa, has nothing to do with white privilege. Their reasons are pretty much the same as the rest of the world that protests against the un-level playing field that they must live in. The protests involve guns and violence, just like it does in any country that is on the verge of revolt. Right now the "privileged whites" aren't participating too much. But let things fall apart a bit more, and they might start joining their black brothers in hollering for the scalps of the owners. War is a racket - just like the militarization of the police is. The racket is designed to control people, and build wealth and power.
As long as the police are taught - via training or peer pressure, that the people are just peasants (with no rights), things will just get worse in the police versus the peasant wars.
That is my prediction - just don't have any idea of the time scale involved. TPTB seem to be able to keep the propaganda machine humming as long as Joe Sixpack can afford Netflix and a new I-phone once in a while.
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Re: Dallas Sniper 7/7/2016
by dohboi » Thu 21 Jul 2016, 00:31:44
http://wtvr.com/2016/07/19/phoenix-poli ... a-partner/
Phoenix police sees Black Lives Matter as a partner
Phoenix police sees Black Lives Matter as a partner
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Re: Dallas Sniper 7/7/2016
by onlooker » Thu 21 Jul 2016, 17:26:30
It is true what Hawk is saying. We have a system of power in this country and throughout the world that seems to have consolidated power in the form of a Plutocracy. The rule of money. This rule and rulers of money maintains the common interests of money/power and in this way seem interconnected. These elites from both the political and economic spheres seem intent on maintaining power no matter what. They use the police and military as their show of might to secure their dominion. This has become evident to me. The entire planet is crippled with this deep corruption and abuse of power. The TPTB do not seem concerned with being amendable to people's desires for reform or change. In fact they are with their policies both here and abroad not trying to alleviate economic concerns of the masses but rather bolstering their own economic portfolio ie Panama Papers, their military prowess and their political authority. So in summary the entire power hierarchy is hopelessly corrupted by a self serving cadre of elites who even in this country have a revolving door of entering and exiting the business world and the political arena.
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Re: Dallas Sniper 7/7/2016
by Loki » Thu 21 Jul 2016, 21:35:53
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Hawkcreek', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', '
')But by all means, let us know what these "reasons" are. Your post makes it pretty clear you think these reasons are valid. Lemme guess, does it have something to do with white privilege?
')But by all means, let us know what these "reasons" are. Your post makes it pretty clear you think these reasons are valid. Lemme guess, does it have something to do with white privilege?
Naa, has nothing to do with white privilege. Their reasons are pretty much the same as the rest of the world that protests against the un-level playing field that they must live in. The protests involve guns and violence, just like it does in any country that is on the verge of revolt. Right now the "privileged whites" aren't participating too much. But let things fall apart a bit more, and they might start joining their black brothers in hollering for the scalps of the owners. War is a racket - just like the militarization of the police is. The racket is designed to control people, and build wealth and power.
As long as the police are taught - via training or peer pressure, that the people are just peasants (with no rights), things will just get worse in the police versus the peasant wars.
That is my prediction - just don't have any idea of the time scale involved. TPTB seem to be able to keep the propaganda machine humming as long as Joe Sixpack can afford Netflix and a new I-phone once in a while.
This is not what Black Lives Matters is about. If all of the above is your own personal opinion, that's fine, however hyperbolic it may be. But this is, at best, only indirectly related to the Black Lives Matter movement.
The BLM movement is all about race. Their claims about overpolicing are made almost exclusively within a racial context. Police violence, in their view, is just the most blatant manifestation of a more fundamental problem. The central premise of BLM is that the US is a white supremacist society with a deeply rooted culture of state terrorism and institutional racism. If one rejects this premise, one rejects the movement.
So do you think the US is a white supremacist society rooted in state terrorism and institutional racism?
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Re: Dallas Sniper 7/7/2016
by dohboi » Thu 21 Jul 2016, 22:09:37
Exactly which part of that do you dispute?
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Re: Dallas Sniper 7/7/2016
by Cog » Thu 21 Jul 2016, 22:47:15
The entire BLM movement was started on a false narrative that Mike Brown was executed from behind with his hands up. That was proven false by three independent autopsies but the left and the BLM continue with the narrative unpersuaded by the facts on the matter.
If anything, blacks are treated with kid's gloves when it comes to law enforcement.
If anything, blacks are treated with kid's gloves when it comes to law enforcement.
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Re: Dallas Sniper 7/7/2016
by Loki » Fri 22 Jul 2016, 05:20:49
Black Lives Matter is a decentralized movement, an alliance of organizations whose protest actions attract many unaffiliated supporters. That makes it tricky to categorically state that "BLM believes this" or "BLM believes that." But we can examine the rhetoric of the affiliated organizations and prominent activists within the movement. They paint a surprisingly consistent portrait.
Let's start with one of the founders of the Black Lives Matter movement, Patrisse Marie Cullors-Brignac. She writes:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n 2013, I helped create a Black-centered political will and movement building project called #BlackLivesMatter. You may have heard of it. As many of you know, it was in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer, George Zimmerman. Another co-creator, Alicia Garza first uttered the words in a love note to Black people. I slapped a hashtag on it because I understood the power of spreading messages. Opal Tometi caught wind and helped us develop the broader social media platform, among other things. All of us are trained radical Black organizers, who have long been a part of the larger Black liberation movement....
[BLM] is adaptive and decentralized with a set of guiding principles. Our goal is to support the development of new Black leaders as well as create a network where Black people feel empowered to determine our destinies in our communities.
Let's start with one of the founders of the Black Lives Matter movement, Patrisse Marie Cullors-Brignac. She writes:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n 2013, I helped create a Black-centered political will and movement building project called #BlackLivesMatter. You may have heard of it. As many of you know, it was in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer, George Zimmerman. Another co-creator, Alicia Garza first uttered the words in a love note to Black people. I slapped a hashtag on it because I understood the power of spreading messages. Opal Tometi caught wind and helped us develop the broader social media platform, among other things. All of us are trained radical Black organizers, who have long been a part of the larger Black liberation movement....
[BLM] is adaptive and decentralized with a set of guiding principles. Our goal is to support the development of new Black leaders as well as create a network where Black people feel empowered to determine our destinies in our communities.
Self-determination is a term that often crops up. In black nationalist ideology this usually refers to separation of the races and the establishment of autonomous (or mostly autonomous) black communities, or sometimes to a single autonomous black nation in the American South. It has its roots in Marcus Garvey's back to Africa movement in the early 20th century.
She goes on to denounce “capitalist white supremacy.” “The Black radical agenda, which pushes us closer to freedom and the agenda to which I subscribe, calls for an eradication of white supremacy and an adoption of values and traditions endowed from the Black experience.”
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BLM activist Marissa Johnson came to national prominence when she disrupted a white supremacist rally in Seattle.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hen, Marissa Johnson and Mara Willaford, activists with the Black Lives Matter movement who were standing near the stage, raised their fists in the air....Johnson spoke through the heckling, welcoming Bernie to the town of Seattle, where "white supremacist liberalism" prevails.
She went on to call the crowd of Bernie supporters white supremacists and described in more detail how white liberals are complicit in advancing white supremacy in America.
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It shouldn't come as a shock that BLM has support in certain academic circles. Lawrence Ware of Oklahoma State University and Lauren Whiteman (ironically actually a black woman) of the University of Oklahoma, write in defense of BLM:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')es, President Obama is a black man in the White House—but as Louis Farrakhan reminds us, we should never lose sight that it is still the WHITE house. That is, the Presidency in this country is an office invested in maintaining and acting out the norms of white supremacy....
He spent the first two years in office trying to build bridges with those who maintain white supremacy and now he wants to lecture those engaged in a movement to that was formed under his watch. What oppressed people need is neither always convenient nor expressed according to the expectations of those who need to hear them. If we were politely asking for our needs to be met, we would die before we attracted the attention of those in power. In fact, many already have.
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Blacklivesmatters.com describes Rev. Osagyefo Uhuru Sekou as a “movement pastor.” He wrote on Facebook:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')y heart breaks at this time for Joshua Williams, our son, who languishes in the belly of the beast while those who shoot us dead in the street, those who ensure they evade justice and those who profit from the systems of white supremacy and incarceration walk free,” Rev. Osagyefo Sekou said.
Joshua Williams is a BLM activist who was sentenced to 8 years in prison for an arson and burglary he committed during a BLM riot in Ferguson.
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About the affiliate organizations, blacklivesmatter.com writes: “BLM is composed of many local leaders and many local organizations including Black Youth Project 100, the Dream Defenders, the Organization for Black Struggle, Hands Up United, Millennial Activists United, and the Black Lives Matter national network.”
Let's start with Hands Up United. Founded in response to the Michael Brown shooting, it describes itself as “a collective of politically engaged minds building towards the liberation of oppressed Black, Brown and poor people through education, art, civil disobedience, advocacy and agriculture.”
They refer to themselves as part of the Black Power movement, and demand self-determination of black and brown people. Self-determination, as I said, has a very specific meaning in black nationalist circles.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hile playing a critical role in the North American uprising for Black lives, HandsUpUnited aims to fulfill the political void that remains from the historical archives of the Black Power Movement. HandsUpUnited strongly believes liberation for oppressed Black and Brown people will be achieved solely through self determination coupled with traditional and nontraditional means of political education.
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