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Unread postby ab0di » Mon 11 Jul 2005, 15:41:11

A dead refrigerator buried in the ground makes a decent root cellar. See Root Cellaring by Mike and Nancy Bubel, pages 122-123.
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Unread postby Pops » Mon 11 Jul 2005, 19:11:49

It is funny that most think of bikes as transport – how many folks work off their McDonalds by pedaling a stationary bike?

How about if the resistance was provided by a machine actually accomplishing work?

How many bikes with broken forks and bent spokes are out there?
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Unread postby strider3700 » Mon 11 Jul 2005, 19:14:59

pops if you're thinking of powering something directly off of a bike make sure it's mechanical and you're not generating electricity. I've read of a hook up where peddling the bike pumped water. I've also sat on a bike at science world that turned a generator to power a tv. Lets just say that while in good shape I pumped like hell and only could watch 30 seconds of tv before my legs where toast. I couldn't believe how hard it was.
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Unread postby OldSprocket » Mon 11 Jul 2005, 19:28:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'A')lso any small appliance that has one of those small transformers, (including laptops), means that the device actually uses DC, and can be run from a battery, or a solar PV cell


Almost. Those "wall wart" transformers convert to many voltages other than 12. My computer, for instance runs on 18VDC so I use a DC-DC converter since the wall outlets here are all 12VDC. Some wall warts also have AC output; phone answering machines with tapes, for instance, use the 60Hz current to regulate the motor speed. (Thus I have no answering machine.)

MD has a good point that devices that have transformers at the wall are potentially 12VDC. Just read the specs on the wall wart itself. Often the wart is labeled better than the device.
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Unread postby Pops » Mon 11 Jul 2005, 19:32:47

Naw, I’m of the opinion the electricity will go on for quite a while but like everything else will become so cost prohibitive as to be out of reach for average Joes like me to watch TV.

On the other hand, if one can get away from the Tim Taylor ‘More Power’ mindset, a little gearing and elbow grease (in this case I guess ‘knee grease) can work wonders.

Actually, for recreation I probably need a good book, instead of my current TV favorite – I think it’s something like: ‘Survivor Dance Off While Eating Maggots and lying to (or with) My Fellow Contestants”.
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Unread postby ab0di » Mon 11 Jul 2005, 19:57:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'J')unk is good, I like to think radio tech will stay alive, simply because it's so easy to do once you know how, and takes so little electricity to keep up good comms over long distances (research the terms QRP and QRPp) so I guess I will always have a "trade".


Also research PSK31. Combined with a decent QRP rig and a laptop you can talk to the world with very little power.
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Unread postby kelee877 » Tue 12 Jul 2005, 09:42:32

Bikes from the dump..even if the bikes are not in great shape take the tubes out of the tires and re-use the tubes for bungee cords..b/f uses them all the time, and when we went this weekend to the dump, he came across a set of old school lockers 4 wide..he uses those at camp for the guns and ammo..also uses them to put the boat motors and life jackets in at private beach..locked up safe and sound...
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Unread postby OldSprocket » Wed 13 Jul 2005, 14:23:06

Major score today. I've been collecting parts for solar hot water, and have been dreading the purchase of tempered glass for a cover. The dump had a pair of sliding tub/shower doors that are certainly tempered. I'll measure their transmittance first, but these are probably the collector cover. Sitting beside them was the top aluminum channel that will make an excellent heat sink for the Peltier-effect fridge prototype that's on one of the many back burners here.
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Unread postby countrysidegirl » Wed 13 Jul 2005, 16:25:26

I came by being a pack rat honestly....my mother is one also. But this thread made me start thinking about where else I can store stuff and I think I will start sticking some stuff up in the attic crawl space. Think that would help like insulation?
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Unread postby spearGR » Wed 13 Jul 2005, 16:46:35

ok,the packrat thread.I"ll hang out for a post or two..Theres so much shit in my barn I cant even find what I look for half the time.The big bummer is that its actually my brother in laws barn and by next summer I have to have all the junk out.And its all good junk.
Todays score was four pallet loads of old bricks.someone in the village did some demolition and illegal dumping and the wife took my son and his friend and they made a few trips with the jeep.
Its all stacked nice and neat in my yard now.
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Unread postby kelee877 » Wed 13 Jul 2005, 17:18:57

We have a lot and on the lot we have a large storage shed and an old transport..back part..and alot of space..try and find an independent owner of a lot they will rent to you ...we do let people rent spaces from us..have boats old cars..it would be extra income for a strapped person..and we are both packrats...b/f collects stuff he calls it wire, wood everything..and I am the food gatherer..works..
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Re: Space Junk and More Lies.

Unread postby Grifter » Fri 02 Feb 2007, 21:14:06

My first thought on this story was that China can now prevent the US or others from using ICBM's whether against themselves or their allys.

But yeah, the lies do my head right in. I sometimes wish I just believed!
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Re: Space Junk and More Lies.

Unread postby AWPrime » Fri 02 Feb 2007, 21:25:08

The 10 percent is most likely a lie.
Fighting technobabble and Woo Woos.

http://www.skepticwiki.org
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Re: Space Junk and More Lies.

Unread postby TITAN » Sat 03 Feb 2007, 01:52:46

I would love to have seen the look on the top brass' faces when they heard of the news that China can now knock down anything they want, whenever they want.

One problem though, how do the Chinese know exactly where our satellites are? I guess they could just scan for anything emitting any type of signal, then find out what that signal is...
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Re: Space Junk and More Lies.

Unread postby PolestaR » Sat 03 Feb 2007, 02:38:17

We were talking about this the other day at a meeting. If China can launch a missile and the US finds out about it a few days later how does this apply for detecting ICBMs? China doesn't even care about others, I would suspect it would launch it's ICBMs in the same manner, out of the blue, without fanfare.

Can anyone tell me how you would win a war against China if they decided to attack you if the rules were you couldn't use WMDs? Every day they get stronger with the money rushing into them. Don't need a fortune cookie to see how this will turn out.
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Re: Space Junk and More Lies.

Unread postby AirlinePilot » Sat 03 Feb 2007, 03:11:12

If you believe we did not know about that launch and what went on..then i have some real estate for you to look at.

China's space program is having major growing pains. I'm sure they may have the capability to destroy a satelite every now and then, but doing it on a large scale reliably is probably out of the question for quite a while.

What makes anyone in here so sure we didnt LET them do this?? Who knows what our capability is to meet that threat? I wouldnt bother speculating, but I would conjecture that no one in here has any CLUE what we can or cant do, let alone the Chinese.
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Re: Space Junk and More Lies.

Unread postby PolestaR » Sat 03 Feb 2007, 03:15:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', ' ')What makes anyone in here so sure we didnt LET them do this?? Who knows what our capability is to meet that threat? I wouldnt bother speculating, but I would conjecture that no one in here has any CLUE what we can or cant do, let alone the Chinese.


Sure anything is possible, fact is you don't KNOW. Wouldn't the US try and get it reported immediately, why wait 5 days?
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Re: Space Junk and More Lies.

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Sat 03 Feb 2007, 03:47:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PolestaR', 'S')ure anything is possible, fact is you don't KNOW. Wouldn't the US try and get it reported immediately, why wait 5 days?


Spin control?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TITAN', 'O')ne problem though, how do the Chinese know exactly where our satellites are? I guess they could just scan for anything emitting any type of signal, then find out what that signal is


It's not that hard to find the satellites. A mid-range 180mm telescope can spot them fairly easily. Finding them is the easy part. Hitting a 2m diameter object 35,000 km above you, moving at 11,300 km/h, that's the challenge!
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Re: Space Junk and More Lies.

Unread postby Tanada » Sat 03 Feb 2007, 07:35:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PolestaR', 'S')ure anything is possible, fact is you don't KNOW. Wouldn't the US try and get it reported immediately, why wait 5 days?


Spin control?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TITAN', 'O')ne problem though, how do the Chinese know exactly where our satellites are? I guess they could just scan for anything emitting any type of signal, then find out what that signal is


It's not that hard to find the satellites. A mid-range 180mm telescope can spot them fairly easily. Finding them is the easy part. Hitting a 2m diameter object 35,000 km above you, moving at 11,300 km/h, that's the challenge!


Nobody is shooting at satalites 35,000 km up, the ones in danger are those in the 150-300 km band, like the ISSA!
You can hit one of those with an air launched intercept package and some halfway decent computer programming for targeting. The US system is launched via F-15 and was perfected and shelved in 1983-1986. The thing is, nobody really wants to do this because the junk level would make it very difficult to launch replacements for a decade or so, which would leave you just as handicapped as your oponent.
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Re: Space Junk and More Lies.

Unread postby PolestaR » Sat 03 Feb 2007, 08:08:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PolestaR', 'S')ure anything is possible, fact is you don't KNOW. Wouldn't the US try and get it reported immediately, why wait 5 days?


Spin control?


Easy to say "spin control" but maybe you can tell me why it isn't better for the USA to detect the missile the moment it launched and then mention it to the media the next day? Sounds to me like they weren't sure and wanted more data to see if it indeed was a missile launch. But hey, I'm all ears to your 5 day reason. :)
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