by rockdoc123 » Wed 09 Mar 2016, 13:23:09
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')ure, if you take them at their word. On the other hand as someone pointed out over in another of the oil supply threads they are currently losing market share by not increasing their output as world consumption has risen since last year. Perhaps it is just a technicality, but they had something like 10 percent of the share of the world oil market in 2014 when this all started and now they have something like 9.8 percent because consumption has grown more than their exports have grown in the last 18 months or about that long.
I think my point is SA will only be willing to sell to a limited discount price. We saw last year that to protect market share they were discounting crude prices quite heavily into the far east. With everyone else subsequently going nuts and trying to protect there own market share price drops and then SA would have to discount at an even higher rate to maintain that market share. At some point that doesn't make any sense, higher price winning out over market share.
I tend to believe a lot of what SA claims regarding production capabilities, reserves etc. Several reasons for that belief:
1. everyone points to the jump in OPEC reserves back in the eighties as an example of them "making things up" but in reality it coincided with the actual formation of OPEC regulations regarding production constraints and the idea of "reserves" as they defined them had almost certainly changed (i.e. including P2 with P1). I believe this to be an accounting issue much like most domestic and IOC's went through back in the nineties with the implementation of more stringent regulations on reserve classification and audit.
2. Aramco hires a lot of foreigners. I know a number of professionals who have spent a decade or more working for Aramco (they pay better than anyone else). Aramco hires Schlumberger and Halliburton for much of their wireline and other service work, Baker Hughes is also a big entity in the country. If there were actual problems of the type that the OilDrum and Toilet in the Desert purported to exist it is almost certain they would have leaked out through one of these sources. On the contrary my contacts scratch their heads when people question the numbers coming out of Saudi Arabia.....their comments are why would they and how could they cook the numbers? At the same time they hate working there (other than for the money) given the company has SA nationals in management positions who apparently can't find their backsides with both hands (they count on the workers for success).
3. The investment to increase capacity to 12.5 MM bbl/d involved spending of several hundred billion dollars and the contracts for the vast majority of the work were awarded to Western companies. If it was all a sham you would have heard something from the Western companies other than the press releases that pointed to the amount of money they had made from these projects. Why would SA invest hundreds of billions to improve production (wells, plants, compression, water and gas handling etc) if they thought it wouldn't work? Highly unlikely. To my mind that is a conspiracy theory too far.
4. If SA were actually fibbing about their oil and gas industry you would think that everything would be touted as being an amazing success. That is the sort of nonsense you do see from countries who do not have a robust oil and gas industry but have some hint of success that they hope will attract new punters to the country. On the contrary SA has been forthcoming with the fact their conventional gas exploration push in the Rub Al Khali was a huge bust and that the Manifa expansion project was put on hold. This suggests to me they are just reporting what has happened, of course they aren't opening up the kimono fully as that is not in their nature but I believe the numbers coming out of there are likely not far off.
Certainly it would be ideal if Aramco submitted to third party independent audit of their reserves and production but that isn't going to happen. As a consequence I need more substantive evidence they are "cooking the books" before I go down that rabbit hole.