[Revi]

Here's a film we are working on that will interest a wider audience:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/14 ... love-story

Please help us to make it a reality.

[AdamB]

An excellent promo! A little late if peak oil indeed happen back in 2005 as Jeff Brown has insisted, and funding for this might face a head wind in light of the current flood of oil on the market, with no end in sight to shale development globally, but still, a wonderful promo!

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', 'A')n excellent promo! A little late if peak oil indeed happen back in 2005 as Jeff Brown has insisted, and funding for this might face a head wind in light of the current flood of oil on the market, with no end in sight to shale development globally, but still, a wonderful promo!

[ennui2]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'i')t is not and never was a global liquids peak call.

[eugene]

Seems to me there are hair splitters everywhere which is a very nice way to make the world fit your view points or to quiet the raging anxiety in your gut. Hair splitting takes such focus. One has to get so intent on the minute details. And the broader reality gets lost.
But don't worry, focus on some detail which blocks out raging population growth, national debt growing at unsustainable levels, rapid climate change and environmental degradation everywhere. Me, I'm a so called "doomer". One of those that looks out there and says "holy shit, looks bad to me". But that doesn't sell well in the land of infinite optimism.

[ennui2]

There's nothing wrong with being "long" on doom. Wasn't Malthus "long" on doom? Isn't the Club of Rome "long" on doom?

The problem I see here is an insistence that there's only two ways to look at doom, either nigh, or cornucopianism. Revising the doom-o-meter to push Mad Max doom off 10+ years is tantamount to being a cornucopian.

A big part of this is a sort of tacit acknowledgment of psychology, that unless doom feels "nigh", nobody does anything. If the main motivation of a doomer in raising the red flag is mitigation (i.e. Hirsch Report style, a truly noble goal) then you have to create enough of a sense of imminent danger to coax people into action. But if you push the panic button too hard and bad predictions come and go you will just get labeled a Chicken Little and set the "movement" back more than if you never said anything at all.

The issue of human psychology ignoring long-term consequences is insurmountable.

[Revi]

This film is not going to be too "doomy". I think of it as a way to get the message out without being too dark about it.

I think Nelson has done a great job on the promo. Now he needs some help making the film a reality. We have a lot of footage, but we need to organize it into a film that will interest not just us "peakists", but a wider audience.

What do you think?

[GHung]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'T')his film is not going to be too "doomy". I think of it as a way to get the message out without being too dark about it.

I think Nelson has done a great job on the promo. Now he needs some help making the film a reality. We have a lot of footage, but we need to organize it into a film that will interest not just us "peakists", but a wider audience.

What do you think?

[ennui2]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '
')We need diesel.

[Revi]

I think you guys are getting a little too worked up. I agree that the fuel that frack ing provides is gasoline. In abundance. We aren't getting much other stuff. The whole thing is going down soon enough. Let them go to Disneyland. That's pretty much where everyone is living anyway. Meanwhile I spent the last week sugaring, getting exercise and getting ready for production of a product that might be useful if the world goes to hell. We will be able to put it stuff, trade with it etc. Who doesn't like maple syrup? If the world is going to go down we may as well have pancakes for a little while...

Meanwhile we are getting the film together. Any input? I think it will be an amusing look at this kooky guy who is obsessed with peak oil. I have even offered to not talk about peak oil to anyone who donates $100. My wife took me up on that offer immediately! All she has to say is kickstarter and I'll stop talking about peak oil immediately. Not a bad deal for her!

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'Y')es AdamB, "Jeff" isn't an engineer, he is a professional petroleum geologist. I stand corrected.

[Revi]

Here is the kickstarted project again.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1421060864/peak-oil-a-love-story?ref=nav_search

Check it out!

[Revi]

Here's the promo on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owUIkQJ_btM

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'I') think you guys are getting a little too worked up. I agree that the fuel that frack ing provides is gasoline. In abundance. We aren't getting much other stuff.

[Revi]

Great suggestions Adam B!

We are getting away from making any predictions in this film, but it is a way to get people to become more aware of the sea of oil they are floating on.

We'll see what happens. I have a feeling that the financial debacle is what people will feel most intensely.

The peak oil problem may be underneath it all, but only a tiny fraction of people will know that.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', '
')We'll see what happens. I have a feeling that the financial debacle is what people will feel most intensely.