[onlooker]

"it appears that what boomers want are big suburban houses on winding culs-de-sac." So they want to have their privacy yet live in large homes, I imagine with all the perk and amenities that Americans are used too. I cannot blame them having lived most of their lives in such a relatively wealthy country amid the pervasive notion of entitlement. Completely oblivious to what is coming which is probably better- Ignorance is bliss.
http://www.mnn.com/your-home/remodeling ... e-clueless

[Cog]

What is the fascination among doomers and progressives to force people into little rat apartments and lofts in the city? Do you hate freedom that much?

[Lore]

Because it robs everyone of limited resources.

[onlooker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'W')hat is the fascination among doomers and progressives to force people into little rat apartments and lofts in the city? Do you hate freedom that much?

[Newfie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'W')hat is the fascination among doomers and progressives to force people into little rat apartments and lofts in the city? Do you hate freedom that much?

[ennui2]

I'll tell ya one thing. This is a big dash of cold water on the idea that keeps getting promoted that everyone would be happier if they didn't live in the suburbs. They exist because a lot of people prefer it, period.

[ennui2]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '
')Because the idea of many people living in confined spaces is less disturbing than the idea of killing most so that the survivors can live in big spaces.

[onlooker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ennui2', ' ') They exist because a lot of people prefer it, period.

[KaiserJeep]

Well, I don't think that I am clueless. What I am hunting for as the last house I buy is:

1) Located among extended family (and my twin 8-month-old grandkids) in Wisconsin, on the edge of a small/medium town that will provide services.

2) 2-5 acres, 3 bedroom, 2 baths, under 2000 square foot structure, very well insulated. Passive solar features a plus. Maintenance free exterior a plus. Two car garage, with shop space, or shop space in a basement.

3) A vegetable garden, fruit trees, and maybe some chickens. Not much grass that needs mowing.

I am discovering there are not many turnkey places that meet my list of desired features. I may have to build a place, although that will take approximately a year. But there are many places that come close and could be adapted - which would save money and I would probably end up with more house than I could build for less money, and I would not have to live elsewhere for 12 months.

I know all about Peak Oil, and these are my conscious choices. I am not an extreme doomer, I'm not expecting ravening hordes of zombies, nor even the wild bandits from the Mad Max movies. But I am also not willing to live in 200 square feet or less, or anywhere in a big city. Urban environments are dirty, unhealthy, and infested with Democrats.

[Timo]

Funny, KJ. For most of your post, I was agreeing nearly 100% with your rationales for what you desire in your homestead. In fact, you sounded exactly like a good number of friends of mine who are Democrats who live just the way you described the manner in which you'd like to live, yourself.

Whenever I read the news, though, Republicans seem to rabidly attack clean energy simply out of spite, because most Democrats are for clean energy.

BTW, I am most certainly NOT judging your rationales for choosing where or how you want to live. I actually agree with them. Most of them, anyway.

Oh, and for the record, I am also NOT a boomer.

[Newfie]

Guess we don't fit the mold. Here's our retirement home.

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[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', 'B')ecause it robs everyone of limited resources.

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ennui2', ' ') They exist because a lot of people prefer it, period.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', 'B')ecause it robs everyone of limited resources.

[Cog]

Oh I understand what you think are the consequences of excessive consumption. So why not just kill everyone in suburbia? That would seem to solve both the over-population problem and over consumption simultaneously.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'O')h I understand what you think are the consequences of excessive consumption. So why not just kill everyone in suburbia? That would seem to solve both the over-population problem and over consumption simultaneously.

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'O')h I understand what you think are the consequences of excessive consumption. So why not just kill everyone in suburbia? That would seem to solve both the over-population problem and over consumption simultaneously.

[Lore]

That's also called anarchy. Look that up.

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', 'T')hat's also called anarchy. Look that up.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', 'T')hat's also called anarchy. Look that up.