[Newfie]

You asked why, I told you. Never said it was my wish.

Read what I said, don't read into it.

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'Y')ou asked why, I told you. Never said it was my wish.

Read what I said, don't read into it.

[Newfie]

Because we are heard animals, well domesticated. We like to think of ourselves as wolves. We are sheep who desire a Shepard.

It's in our genes.

There is more evidence, more fulsome explanations but that's the nub of it.

It's taken me a long time and a lot of reading and observation to come to this conclusion.

[Cog]

I do not desire a government sheepherder. I wish to be left alone. If you social engineers desire to set up a utopia, go buy the land, move in your hippie scum, and leave me the hell out of it.

[Newfie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'I') do not desire a government sheepherder. I wish to be left alone. If you social engineers desire to set up a utopia, go buy the land, move in your hippie scum, and leave me the hell out of it.

[Newfie]

Cog,

Out of curiosity, I recall (or did I make it up?) that you are a surveyor who works on road and highway projects?

I spent my career working in transit.

So, ironically, should this Obama bill pass we would be two of the beneficiaries.

[Cog]

That is indeed true. But I am not limited to working on roads. I've worked on McDonald's, Walgreens, etc private construction projects, subdivision construction, boundary surveys both small and large, and any number of other infrastructure projects that have zilch to do with roads and bridges.

[Newfie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'T')hat is indeed true. But I am not limited to working on roads. I've worked on McDonald's, Walgreens, etc private construction projects, subdivision construction, boundary surveys both small and large, and any number of other infrastructure projects that have zilch to do with roads and bridges.

[AgentR11]

Obama needs to run for congress so he can get his stupid idea up for vote. I see no mechanism for such a proposal to even see the light of day in the House. No need to oppose it.. it'll never be in a position to get voted on.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'O')bama needs to run for congress so he can get his stupid idea up for vote. I see no mechanism for such a proposal to even see the light of day in the House. No need to oppose it.. it'll never be in a position to get voted on.

[Lore]

$10 is a good start.

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', '$')10 is a good start.

[Newfie]

Yes, a good deep recession in order to return to some semblance of balance and get the government stripped down.

[AgentR11]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', ' ')which will form a starting point for negotiations over next year's budget in the house.

[AgentR11]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'Y')es, a good deep recession in order to return to some semblance of balance and get the government stripped down.

[lpetrich]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'I')nstead of feeding the bloated federal government, we should be starving it into submission.

[KaiserJeep]

All taxes applied to raw materials used to manufacture other goods are basically regressive taxes - they tend to suppress the industries that use those materials, reduce employment, and increase the cost of those goods for everybody from a "one percenter" to the government welfare "clients" enjoying their generations old status as non-workers.

Since transportation is in fact a key component of everything we consume regardless of source, and since oil is used for ship, rail, and truck transport - the effects of $10/barrel taxation are gonna be further economic malaise no matter how one spends the tax revenues.

If reducing petroleum imports (versus domestic petroleum production) is a particular goal (I believe very much that it should be) then apply such a tax to the barrels of oil imported to this country, and thus encourage domestic oil production.

If the improved efficiency of private vehicles is the goal, then apply the tax to the finished fuels (gasoline and diesel) rather than to the raw materials, because that same barrel of oil also is used for space heating, for plastics, for fertilizers/pesticides/herbicides, and in fact for thousands of other products. Then encourage the use of other tech such as Battery Electric Vehicles by establishing a national network of charging stations for BEVs, by mandating that such tax revenues be used for such new transportation infrastructure. Furthermore, make the use of those government-funded vehicle charging stations that use solar panels, wind turbines, or other renewable energy sources free for licensed driver taxpayers.

The POTUS needs to be more up front with what his actual goals are with this tax. The only thing I can read into the application of a $10 tax to every barrel of petroleum is "Let's stick it to the oil companies!".

If you are so juvenile that this thought gives you joy, and so thoughtless as to believe that a $10 a barrel tax on petroleum will actually benefit anyone, than you need to substitute THINKING for FEELING.

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lpetrich', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'I')nstead of feeding the bloated federal government, we should be starving it into submission.