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THE Terror / Terrorism Thread pt 4 (merged)

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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Fri 20 Nov 2015, 19:15:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shaved Monkey', 'A')ll religions love a good Apocalypse.
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We are all here because of the fear of the Zombie Apocalypse :)


For Islam it's the "Twelvers" right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelver
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')welver (Arabic: اثنا عشرية‎, Athnā‘ashariyyah or Ithnā‘ashariyyah; Persian: شیعه دوازده‌امامی‎‎, pronounced [ʃiːʔe-je dævɑzdæh emɑmiː]) Shia Islam or Imamiyyah (Arabic: إمامية‎) is the largest branch of Shia Islam. The term Twelver refers to its adherents' belief in twelve divinely ordained leaders, known as the Twelve Imams, and their belief that the last Imam, Muhammad al-Mahdi, lives in occultation and will reappear as the promised Mahdi.


And for the Christians, there are the various Millenialist sects that believe in a Battle Of Armageddon, blah blah blah.

We have two cultures, and both of them have religious lunatics demanding that land armies clash in the Middle East and trigger the end of the world so that God comes down from Heaven. The Christian crazies are only a bit less crazy than the Muslims, considering that they have the same belief in politics by prophecy.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby onlooker » Fri 20 Nov 2015, 19:18:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shaved Monkey', 'A')ll religions love a good Apocalypse.
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We are all here because of the fear of the Zombie Apocalypse :)

yes and each religions believes their God is the true God thus disqualifying others beliefs and views. How can you debate a persons religious faith? You cannot. This whole Islam vs. Christians/Jews has existed for thousands of years and I suspect if we are still around one thousand years from now their will still be divisions between these three main religions.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Fri 20 Nov 2015, 19:26:57

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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 20 Nov 2015, 20:24:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', ' ')This whole Islam vs. Christians/Jews has existed for thousands of years and I suspect if we are still around one thousand years from now their will still be divisions between these three main religions.


Judaism isn't one of the three main religions.

There are over a billion Hindus in the world, making them the third largest religion. Muslims especially HATE Hindus because they consider them to be idolators. Muhammad had it in for isolators.

Same thing with the fourth biggest religion---Asian folk religions. Muslims hate them as well for being idolators.

The Fifth biggest religion is Bhuddism. More Idolators.

Judaism is down in ninth place, just after the Sikhs (who Muslims hate for being apostates) and just ahead of Caodosm (whatever in the heck that is) and the Bahais (who Muslims especially hate for being quite recent apostates).

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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby onlooker » Fri 20 Nov 2015, 20:27:59

The question is who do Muslims not hate?
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Fri 20 Nov 2015, 21:28:03

Actually it is not, it is about love vs hate. Muslims are human & as capable of love as anyone else. Their religion however has a wide open window for hate & an opportunity to act out hateful actions in it's name. It is the perfect backdrop to Mad Max 4, which is where the MENA is either already or is headed for as ELM & AGW conspire to destroy liveability in these regions. The situation is incredibly complex but equally mostly simple- or should be- to folks who consider themselves geopolitically & resource economically aware.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby onlooker » Fri 20 Nov 2015, 21:47:27

Actually Sea you did not catch I was being satirical as Plant was reciting all the religions Muslims hate. Of course their are tolerant and good Muslims. Which is not to say their aren't blood thirsty ones also. This situation in the Middle East is truly horrific and has the potential to escalate into WWIII. It is already Mad Max that is pretty evident.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby davep » Sat 21 Nov 2015, 04:01:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')e created Islamic extremism


We didn't. Look up the meaning of Salafism. We created the environment for Daesh to thrive, and aided them in an attempt to remove Assad, but they aren't the first Islamist extremists. Salafists have been getting trained in camps for a long time. I remember some such nutters blowing up metro stations in France in 1995. And they weren't exactly the first either.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Sat 21 Nov 2015, 04:19:38

Arguably the first modern terrorist war was that between Zionists & various Salafist factions in Palestine in the lead up to the foundation of Israel, late 1940's.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Sat 21 Nov 2015, 04:47:29

Its interesting how some terrorist go on to form Governments.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Irgun has been viewed as a terrorist organization or organization which carried out terrorist acts.
In particular the Irgun was described as a terrorist organization by the United Nations, British, and United States governments, and in media such as The New York Times newspaper,and by the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry. the 1946 Zionist Congress and the Jewish Agency.
Irgun's tactics appealed to a certain segment of the Jewish community that believed that any action taken in the cause of the creation of a Jewish state was justified, including terrorism.

The Irgun was a political predecessor to Israel's right-wing Herut (or "Freedom") party, which led to today's Likud party.[12] Likud has led or been part of most Israeli governments since 1977.

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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Sat 21 Nov 2015, 05:03:52

Correct Shaved. There is method in the madness & history does lend it credibility.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby AgentR11 » Sat 21 Nov 2015, 11:10:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', 'T')his whole Islam vs. Christians/Jews has existed for thousands of years and I suspect if we are still around one thousand years from now their will still be divisions between these three main religions.


Islam began in 610AD; before that time, the Arabian folks had a bajillion tribes, beliefs, and a bajillion mini-gods to go with it all. The cultural, political, and religious shift caused by the initial years of Islam was absolutely massive.

So.. Islam is 1405 years old. A bit more than a thousand, but hardly as long as one might suspect from the line, "has existed for thousands of years.."
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby onlooker » Sat 21 Nov 2015, 11:47:02

Thanks for the correction Agent.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Sat 21 Nov 2015, 12:38:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')The official term now is "Overseas Contingency Operation. "

War on Terror is over--- now its Overseas Contingency Operations

cheers!

Ah yes, the renaming of things by government officialdom. Too bad it's generally meaningless.

Case in point: does anyone really believe that "No Child Left Behind" has really fundamentally improved our K-12 educational system? If you do, why are so many U.S. high school graduates unqualified to earn a minimum wage anywhere near the $15 deemed to be a "living wage" in terms of marketable skills - by companies in highly competitive industries?
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 21 Nov 2015, 13:26:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', ' ') Plant was reciting all the religions Muslims hate...


The Koran teaches Muslims to wipe out idolatry---some Muslims believe this means destroying the temples and churches that contain idols as well as the graven images and idols in those churches, such as those found in Hindu temples, and Catholics and Byzantines churches, etc. Other Muslims think it is enough to enact Sharia law so everyone is ruled by Muslim clerics and Muslim laws.

Muhammad himself spent much of his life making war and conquering and then enslaving and killing all the infidels. Muhammad personally destroyed many temples and hundreds of idols. Its not surprising that some Muslims would interpret Muhammad's teachings literally and believe modern Muslims should continue Muhammad's work of killing the infidels and defeating, enslaving and ruling over the idolators.

Muhammad speaks often about the need to conquer the idolators and end idolatry. For instance:

Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39

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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby onlooker » Sat 21 Nov 2015, 13:37:42

Reminds me of the Old Testament in which if I am not mistaken God is wrathful and vengeful and is cheerleading war and armed conflict. So yes I concede that I do not know enough about Islam and the Koran and that violence is condoned apparently in the Koran. Having said that would you all not agree that the vast majority of Muslims are not violent and are not resorting to violence.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby ennui2 » Sat 21 Nov 2015, 15:25:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')...Judaism is down in ninth place, just after the Sikhs (who Muslims hate for being apostates) and just ahead of Caodosm (whatever in the heck that is) and the Bahais (who Muslims especially hate for being quite recent apostates)...


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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 21 Nov 2015, 21:06:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ennui2', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')...Judaism is down in ninth place, just after the Sikhs (who Muslims hate for being apostates) and just ahead of Caodosm (whatever in the heck that is) and the Bahais (who Muslims especially hate for being quite recent apostates)...

It takes a hater to know a hater.


As usual you don't know what you are talking about. Your posts have gotten so wacky its hard to tell if you are trolling or just really really poorly informed

Its simply a fact that Sikhism is the world's eigth largest religion, Judaism is the ninth largest and Caodism and Bahaism are the 9th and 10th largest.

Its also a fact that Muhammad charged his followers with destroying idols and idolatrous religions and apostasy is punishable by death under Sharia law.

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Wow! You really have turned into a weird and wacky and possibly deranged person. Whats with the obama-as-devil-picture---are you one of those loonies who thinks that Obama is the anti-Christ?

So what did you do with the old Mos?---she was at least rational most of the time. :idea:
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Sat 21 Nov 2015, 21:09:41

Does anyone doubt that ISIS wants the GOP to win in 2016? I mean obviously the GOP wants to see America attacked, and I think ISIS will work hand-in-glove to help the GOP win.
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Re: War on Terrorism = false flag

Unread postby Lore » Sat 21 Nov 2015, 21:32:36

The right-wing neocons must think everyone has a short memory. After 15 years of fighting in the Middle East their solution is to continue doing the same thing all over again! I guess a constant state of war serves the military industrial complex which they bow to?
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