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Growing Secular Trend With Milennials

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Re: Growing Secular Trend With Milennials

Unread postby Ibon » Thu 12 Nov 2015, 09:07:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ralfy', 'I') think secular materialism is not a layer but the basis of modern human societies.


I agree that the emergence of secular materialism has formed the basis of modern human societies. In the minds of the masses this becomes layered over their still present religious beliefs. Granted this requires gymnastic rationalizations and one can marvel over the cognitive dissonance which just underscores my point about consequences being the focal point of change moving forward. The fact that millennials show an increasing skepticism toward all institutions is interesting. How will this distrust shift when consequences of human overshoot manifest moving forward?

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Re: Growing Secular Trend With Milennials

Unread postby ralfy » Fri 13 Nov 2015, 00:05:29

Given that, we might consider the influence of religious beliefs in several poor countries.
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Re: Growing Secular Trend With Milennials

Unread postby Ibon » Wed 18 Nov 2015, 23:32:15

Witnessing religious fanaticism may accelerate secularism among young people of all faiths.
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Re: Growing Secular Trend With Milennials

Unread postby Tanada » Wed 18 Nov 2015, 23:46:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', 'W')itnessing religious fanaticism may accelerate secularism among young people of all faiths.


Someone reminded me today several well publicized millennials went to Syria or Iraq to join ISIS because they felt their lives were empty. We know this because they complained about poor internet and cell connections for their iPhones and Androids.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat you need to know is that, even though it may appear that the Occupy Movement has faded into oblivion, there was very real damage done to the willingness Millennials to trust in big business the leadership they have grown up with. Millennials don’t trust big business or big government with pretty good reason. There was 997 billion dollars worth of corporate fraud reported just in the year of 2010 alone!

So what has the Occupy movement got to do with ISIS? It should be noted that many of those who join would not have previously identified themselves as “Muslim,” so what is the attraction? Our school systems are falling apart, kids are leaving school barely being able to read, and having no knowledge or understanding of other cultures even within our own county. Therefore, they can experience an inner psychological pull that is stronger than the morality they grew up with.

In addition, the Millennial generation, those born after 1980 and up to 2004, exhibit a far more fierce desire to be a part of something meaningful than did members of Gen X or Baby Boomers before them. As grotesque as the vision of beheadings and massacres happen to be to the “civilized” nations of the world, there is an allure to the kind of extremist ideology that ISIS signifies for disillusioned members of this generation.


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Re: Growing Secular Trend With Milennials

Unread postby Ibon » Thu 19 Nov 2015, 02:58:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', ' ')there is an allure to the kind of extremist ideology that ISIS signifies for disillusioned members of this generation.


I can remember in my adolescence this fiery warrior like condemnation of the status quo. These sentiments propelled me into wilderness expeditions, some hundreds of kilometers deep. Back then the brotherhood I found was among the flora and fauna. An eco jihadist!
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Re: Growing Secular Trend With Milennials

Unread postby sjn » Thu 19 Nov 2015, 03:23:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', ' ')there is an allure to the kind of extremist ideology that ISIS signifies for disillusioned members of this generation.


I can remember in my adolescence this fiery warrior like condemnation of the status quo. These sentiments propelled me into wilderness expeditions, some hundreds of kilometers deep. Back then the brotherhood I found was among the flora and fauna. An eco jihadist!

If paganism was still meaningfully around, these kids could have had a far more ecologically friendly religious brotherhood. The link to nature and the "spiritual" connection to all things was subverted by the dominant contemporary religions; putting humans into the position of dominion over the Earth, and with the promise other-worldly rewards in the afterlife for those who carry out the doctrine. Respecting the old gods meant maintaining a balance, at least aesthetically, between the various representations of aspects in the interaction of human societies and the powers of nature.
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Re: Growing Secular Trend With Milennials

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Thu 19 Nov 2015, 05:25:22

Our culture and economy revolves around surveillance and counterterrorism, so it needs terrorism. Eventually it becomes like Oceania in "1984" fighting imaginary propaganda wars and imaginary propaganda terrorists. It's dangerous when business and government agree that any threat to the status quo (especially any form of protest) is a form of terrorism or subject to investigation by the antiterrorism apparatus. As always, I'm sure the Quakers are near the top of the list.
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Re: Growing Secular Trend With Milennials

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Thu 19 Nov 2015, 05:28:03

That plus the general public think false flag has something to do with football. Most of the rest, well go grab the tinfoil.
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