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US students march for free college, min. wage, end racism

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Re: US students march for free college, min. wage, end racis

Unread postby Oneaboveall » Fri 13 Nov 2015, 17:04:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'E')lected governor of California in 1966 after running a scorched-earth campaign against the University of California, Reagan vowed to “clean up that mess in Berkeley,” warned audiences of “sexual orgies so vile that I cannot describe them to you,” complained that outside agitators were bringing left-wing subversion into the university, and railed against spoiled children of privilege skipping their classes to go to protests. He also ran on an anti-tax platform and promised to put the state’s finances in order by “throw[ing] the bums off welfare.” But it was the University of California at Berkeley that provided the most useful political foil, crystallizing all of his ideological themes into a single figure for disorder, a subversive menace of sexual, social, generational, and even communist deviance.
When Reagan assumed office, he immediately set about doing exactly what he had promised. He cut state funding for higher education, laid the foundations for a shift to a tuition-based funding model, and called in the National Guard to crush student protest, which it did with unprecedented severity. But he was only able to do this because he had already successfully shifted the political debate over the meaning and purpose of public higher education in America. The first “bums” he threw off welfare were California university students. Instead of seeing the education of the state’s youth as a patriotic duty and a vital weapon in the Cold War, he cast universities as a problem in and of themselves—both an expensive welfare program and dangerously close to socialism. He even argued for the importance of tuition-based funding by suggesting that if students had to pay, they’d value their education too much to protest.

https://www.dissentmagazine.org/article ... -education


I posted this article on here a few months back. For all the complaints about PC, SJWs, and the left's overall identity politics; it describes how Reagan was able to use identity politics to whip the right wing into a frenzy about Berkeley (and other universities). With the public conditioned, he was able to pass through all the funding cuts he wanted:

http://exiledonline.com/reagan%E2%80%99 ... ire-snarl/
When the banksters want something, our policymakers move with the speed of Mercury and the determination of Ares. It’s only when the rest of us need something that there is paralysis.

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Re: US students march for free college, min. wage, end racis

Unread postby AgentR11 » Fri 13 Nov 2015, 17:09:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'I')'m sorry that people make really bad choices about taking out college loans but that is on them.


I'd say its only partly on them; these are barely functional adults; not leaders of industry. I expect an 18 yr to be able to drive without killing me; balance his or her checkbook, and maybe work a microwave without blowing up the building. Expecting wisdom from an 18yr is insane.

They do own some of the responsibility; but the folks pushing the idea that they all need college, that they all should go to an expensive college, need to own up. The people that approve the applications of kids who barely scratch 100IQ and managed to finish geometry by their senior year; they own some of this fault as well.

We don't push that 2yr/industrial arts thing like we should. And we should own some of the responsibility for teaching the kids they have to go to college.
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Re: US students march for free college, min. wage, end racis

Unread postby Cog » Fri 13 Nov 2015, 17:25:55

Exactly right Agent.

Parents have that role to teach their kids about their future choices. I didn't need to encourage my daughter to go to college, she wanted to go. But if she had decided otherwise, I would have backed her play. By going to community college her first two years, she saved a great deal of money before she went to the university. She has some student loan debt but at her rate of paying them off, she will be finished with them in a couple of years as opposed to ten years or never.
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Re: US students march for free college, min. wage, end racis

Unread postby ralfy » Sat 14 Nov 2015, 12:05:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'W')ho is paying for all this free stuff?


Probably the same source that also pays for the rest of the economy: a military-backed petrodollar, which ensures more credit creation by Wall Street and more consumer spending for the public.
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