[steam_cannon]

As PrestonSturges said "Every cabinet level agency has federal agents with arrest authority" and that means bullets too. Conspiracy theory's are a waste of our time and this sites image. There are plenty of real problems brewing that deserve attention like oil depletion rates.

[basil_hayden]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('steam_cannon', 'A')s PrestonSturges said "Every cabinet level agency has federal agents with arrest authority" and that means bullets too. Conspiracy theory's are a waste of our time and this sites image. There are plenty of real problems brewing that deserve attention like oil depletion rates.

[mattduke]

Who are they planning to shoot?

[Ferretlover]

Ha! Made you look!
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')emember that phrase: "It's not outlandish to suggest ... "

[Plantagenet]

Good news. Obama's latest budget request drops his request for SS cuts. The Obama plan to reduce SS COLAs is gone!

Hoooooooo-RAY!

Obama drops his SS cut plan

[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'G')ood news. Obama's latest budget request drops his request for SS cuts. The Obama plan to reduce SS COLAs is gone!

Hoooooooo-RAY!

Obama drops his SS cut plan

[Tanada]

COLA's have not kept up with inflation for many years so its not like he is giving seniors some big grand gift.

[Plantagenet]

You are exactly right. And the whole inflation rate number is completely out of whack---it doesn't even include energy costs, for example. But at least Obama has pulled back from his proposal to cut SS COLAs even more.

[careinke]

I just applied for my Social Security. The site was encouraging people to delay collecting, pointing out how much more you could collect by delaying your start, so I ran the numbers.

They estimated my payout at 62 will be $1,600 per month. If I wait until I am 70, the payout would be $2,800 per month ($1,200 per month more).

So if I start at 62, I will have received $153,600 by the time I reach 70 in 8 years. If you divide the $1,200 (extra money if I had waited) into $153,600 (the amount I have gotten back since age 62) you come up with 128 months to break even. That means I will have to live to 80 years and nine months to break even by waiting. After that, I would lose $1,200 per month compared to taking the age 70 option.

Other considerations;

My paternal grandfather died at 46 from a heart attack, my father died at 54 from cancer, my mother died at 74 from a multitude of medical issues.

62 = 2016 (Earliest I can apply)
70 = 2024 (latest I can apply)
80 = 2034 (Break even between early and late collection)

So, for me getting my SS back at 62, rather than waiting until 70 seems a no brainer. Besides I have very little confidence the present system will even be around in 2034.

[Newfie]

I just applied also as I will be 65 in 2weeks and will retire JAN. 15.

As I understand it, the system is set up so that, on average, you will get the same total benefit no matter when you start. On average being the operative words here.

Afte looking at the various options and schemes and reading a few opinions, this bit made up my mind. My kids can inherit my 401k but not my SS. So to maximize the benefit to them, at no injury to myself, it makes sense to take the SS money earlier.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', 'I') just applied for my Social Security. The site was encouraging people to delay collecting, pointing out how much more you could collect by delaying your start, so I ran the numbers.

They estimated my payout at 62 will be $1,600 per month. If I wait until I am 70, the payout would be $2,800 per month ($1,200 per month more).

...

That means I will have to live to 80 years and nine months to break even by waiting. After that, I would lose $1,200 per month compared to taking the age 70 option.

...

So, for me getting my SS back at 62, rather than waiting until 70 seems a no brainer. Besides I have very little confidence the present system will even be around in 2034.

[Plantagenet]

Do people know about the changes to social security just signed into law by Obama? These laws can reduce SS benefits for couples, widow, and divorced people big time.

In some cases you've got a six month window to file under the old system, assuming you'll reach full retirement age by May 2016 when these benefit cuts go into effect.

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Obama just cut SS benefits for married couples and others---you can file under the old system up until May 2016.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'D')o people know about the changes to social security just signed into law by Obama? These laws can reduce SS benefits for couples, widow, and divorced people big time.

In some cases you've got a six month window to file under the old system, assuming you'll reach full retirement age by May 2016 when these benefit cuts go into effect.

social-security-changes-will-hit-couples-divorced-women-hard-2015-11-06

12-secrets-maximizing-social-security-benefits-new-rules

the-state-of-file-and-suspend-where-the-new-social-security-rules-leave-seniors


Obama just cut SS benefits for married couples and others---you can file under the old system up until May 2016.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', ' ')

Boo hoo. Whatever we do, let's.....claim this is Obamas' fault ......

Your credibility score on Obama bashing posts just went down in my estimation.

[Plantagenet]

The US should ditch social security and switch to an Australian-style "superannuation" scheme

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In the Australian scheme, taxes go into an INVESTMENT account instead of to the federal government. A person builds up an account that they own---not something controlled by the government. And the amount that people receive in retirement FAR exceeds the measly payouts from the US social security system.

But of course the Ds won't go for it-----

[ROCKMAN]

Plant - Might have been a great plan many decades ago. But couldn't work now: all the SS monies collected from workers now go directly to recipients today. So there's nothing left over to put into a plan you described. BTW the Rockman gets his first SS check next month. Thank you, suckers! LOL.

[Cog]

Any proposed changes to senior entitlements has the Democrats running commercials of granny being pushed off a cliff. Like this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGnE83A1Z4U

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ROCKMAN', 'P')lant - Might have been a great plan many decades ago. But couldn't work now: all the SS monies collected from workers now go directly to recipients today. So there's nothing left over to put into a plan you described. BTW the Rockman gets his first SS check next month. Thank you, suckers! LOL.

[Newfie]

Our financial advisor told my Wife to take SS ASAP, before they diminish it.

Sounds like wise advice.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'O')ur financial advisor told my Wife to take SS ASAP, before they diminish it.

Sounds like wise advice.