[roccman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 's')o if you get this life altering experience and get in touch with the real universe, why should you need to repeat using this drug more than once? is this not just like getting drunk or getting high from smoking pot? don't you do the experience because it is fun?

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '.') People don't have this experience because it is fun...it is far from fun...puking is the lite side of discomfort - when your soul finds itself in a washing machine of torment and revelation one realizes just how humble one should approach this divine experience. Because if you don't - the anguish one experiences will likely reset your map - permanently.

[roccman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '.') People don't have this experience because it is fun...it is far from fun...puking is the lite side of discomfort - when your soul finds itself in a washing machine of torment and revelation one realizes just how humble one should approach this divine experience. Because if you don't - the anguish one experiences will likely reset your map - permanently.

[SeaGypsy]

I read about it for 15 years before my first, which was about 12 years ago now, have since used a total of 2.5 grams of assayed material. In Australia we have many native acacia with this family of alkaloids, they are not all the same effect. Some are extremely hallucinatory, others more subtle but very emotionally cathartic.

I would say only a very small percentage of people have what it takes to 'handle' DMT. Most people who do try it only do it once. I can spend 3 days smoking a gram, not eat, only drink water, sleep fine with very vivid & relevant dreams, at the end of which I have always a list of stuff I haven learned, which keeps getting more subtle & more refined each time & none of which has lost relevance over time.

If you are the kind of person who needs to find answers internally, rather than accept spoon fed religion, read up on Ayu & DMT & consider the prospectus before investment.

[Cid_Yama]

Many of the plants that have DMT have other alkaloids that can harm the liver. Be careful. There are ways to extract just the DMT.

Don't just smoke the DMT grass. You can find the instructions online for extracting it.

Will also give you a cleaner experience.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', ' ')aya is medicine -

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', ' ')aya is medicine -

[roccman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', 'M')any of the plants that have DMT have other alkaloids that can harm the liver. Be careful. There are ways to extract just the DMT.

Don't just smoke the DMT grass. You can find the instructions online for extracting it.

Will also give you a cleaner experience.

[SeaGypsy]

Not true. MAO inhibitors are the main difference, making a far longer experience. There is no special ingredient in Ayu not found in assay of other plants. Your last post is myth.

[roccman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'N')ot true. MAO inhibitors are the main difference, making a far longer experience. There is no special ingredient in Ayu not found in assay of other plants. Your last post is myth.

[jupiters_release]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '.') People don't have this experience because it is fun...it is far from fun...puking is the lite side of discomfort - when your soul finds itself in a washing machine of torment and revelation one realizes just how humble one should approach this divine experience. Because if you don't - the anguish one experiences will likely reset your map - permanently.

[SeaGypsy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'N')ot true. MAO inhibitors are the main difference, making a far longer experience. There is no special ingredient in Ayu not found in assay of other plants. Your last post is myth.

[roccman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'N')ot true. MAO inhibitors are the main difference, making a far longer experience. There is no special ingredient in Ayu not found in assay of other plants. Your last post is myth.

[SeaGypsy]

Yeah right, your exclusive Latin American mumbo jumbo must be better than stuff discovered in the last 30 years, sure.
The facts in this case are about chemistry, not cultural mumbo jumbo.

BTW, as TMK discovered, there is virtually an infinite range of twirks of DMT, NMT, & associated tryptamine alkaloids. Hundreds have been discovered & assayed, experimented with. Ayu just happens to be the primitive discovery of the chemical effect, in no way a monopoly on the value of tryptamines in general or of DMT ME05, or of MAO inhibitors. TMK opened the door wide, a few have stepped in, there is a whole new universe waiting.

(Also btw I prefer not using strong MAO inhibitors. Depending which ones & how much is time setting on your trip. Using none- the 'businessman's lunch' is literally only a few minutes. With grapefruit rind tea or St John's Wart, stretch out to half an hour to two hours, pigface root, from 2-6 hours, dose dependent.)

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', 'I') will spend 2 weeks fasting (only water) - enter into repetitious prayer days before - avoid "reality" as best I can - and beg for mercy before imbibing myself with aya.

[jupiters_release]

You quoted the wrong person.

And we already knew Rocc's hardcore. Even Savinar (where did he go?) congratulated him on his DIY buried bunker.

[dinopello]

What a coincidence, I was rewatching this lecture series on Science, Magic and Religion... and the prof was recounting a documented altered state experience that she at first said was induced by peyote, then corrected herself to say it must have been Ayahausca because she recalled the guy was vomiting. Had I not read this thread I would not have known what she was talking about. Thanks PO.com !

[SeaGypsy]

Vomiting is a normal side affect of peyote. Ignorance is rife.

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'V')omiting is a normal side affect of peyote. Ignorance is rife.

[Cog]

You druggies should really try a nice hike in the woods.