It is weird watching all this shite happen.
I remember a time (like a few years ago) when States rights were sacrosanct in the US. The PTB are quickly changing it into "The State's right".
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Who Controls Natural Gas Ports?
by agni » Sat 02 Jul 2005, 16:51:12
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MarkR', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')oes anyone actually know the EROEI of this whole process--from liquifying the gas, loading it into the tanker, transporting it across the ocean, then re-expanding (do you need energy for this, or will it re-expand at room temp?)?
My understanding is it takes about 25-30% of the energy content of the gas in order to chill and liquify it.
Actually, this depends on the liquefaction plant size and improves as the plant size increases. This is why it is uneconomical to do this for smaller gas deposits and the gas is often just flared off. The LNG liquefaction plant in Qatar/UAE is supposed spend only about 10-15% of the energy content for this.
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LNG News
by baldwincng » Mon 04 Jul 2005, 03:44:59
LNG imports into the UK have started again after more than 20 years,
http://www.gasmattersonline.com/news1_1.shtml
UK will soon (by Oct 2007) have a huge oversuply of natural gas which is great news.
The world is awash with natural gas and its clear that the growth in the use of natural gas will reduce the demand for oil, eeking out the worlds reserves for a bit longer (eg Middle Eastern countries such as Iran running their vehicles on natural gas means they can continue to export oil for a bit longer).
By the way, total losses of LNG are around 10% in the liquefaction plant plus about 0.1% per day for shipping - ie typically another 1% from say Middle East - plus about 1.5 % for fuel gas to reheat the LNG at a regas plant - so about 12.5% losses in the chain.
Given that natural gas is now a valuable and tradeable commodity as a result of LNG, it's being found all over the place and is is not a Middle East commodity like oil.
http://www.gasmattersonline.com/news1_1.shtml
UK will soon (by Oct 2007) have a huge oversuply of natural gas which is great news.
The world is awash with natural gas and its clear that the growth in the use of natural gas will reduce the demand for oil, eeking out the worlds reserves for a bit longer (eg Middle Eastern countries such as Iran running their vehicles on natural gas means they can continue to export oil for a bit longer).
By the way, total losses of LNG are around 10% in the liquefaction plant plus about 0.1% per day for shipping - ie typically another 1% from say Middle East - plus about 1.5 % for fuel gas to reheat the LNG at a regas plant - so about 12.5% losses in the chain.
Given that natural gas is now a valuable and tradeable commodity as a result of LNG, it's being found all over the place and is is not a Middle East commodity like oil.
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Re: LNG News
by Doly » Mon 04 Jul 2005, 04:56:51
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('baldwincng', '
')The world is awash with natural gas
')The world is awash with natural gas
Not convinced. Colin Campbell expects peak gas for 2012. He may be wrong, but I would be surprised if he was so off the mark that peak gas isn't a concern for the near future.
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Re: LNG News
by cube » Mon 04 Jul 2005, 15:11:57
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('baldwincng', '
')The world is awash with natural gas
')The world is awash with natural gas
Not convinced.
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NG used to be cheaper then prostitutes in Vietnam but now that the domestic supply of NG in North America can no longer meet demand, the US has no choice but to build LNG terminals. Or maybe somebody will build a NG pipeline across the bering strait connecting Siberia and Alaska. From there the the pipeline can be stretched all the way down to California. Now that would be a neat engineering project.
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