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Re: China Is Hoarding the World's Oil

Unread postby Pops » Fri 25 Sep 2015, 15:36:24

There were big increases in refining capacity in the US, china, KSA and UAE

When there is a shortage and big price increase like over the last 10 years, biz invests to profit... when money is at the same time virtually free, it seems a foregone conclusion that some or lots of investment will be overdone.

I'm not gonna blame China for the whole commodity situation but they certainly added to it by pushing their big growth agenda beyond what it might have been "naturally".
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Re: China Is Hoarding the World's Oil

Unread postby dolanbaker » Fri 25 Sep 2015, 15:46:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'T')here were big increases in refining capacity in the US, china, KSA and UAE

When there is a shortage and big price increase like over the last 10 years, biz invests to profit... when money is at the same time virtually free, it seems a foregone conclusion that some or lots of investment will be overdone.

I'm not gonna blame China for the whole commodity situation but they certainly added to it by pushing their big growth agenda beyond what it might have been "naturally".

I sonehow believe that the Chinese thought that they had every right yo try to "catch up" with the west and that there was still a long way to go. The slowdown has come as a bit of a shock to them.
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Re: China Is Hoarding the World's Oil

Unread postby Pops » Fri 25 Sep 2015, 16:11:30

Like I said I don't blame them for the over-investment or even the trying. We've been doing it for hundreds of years and are no better at managing it than when we started.
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