[onlooker]

Which is why I specifically stated their "should" not be any grey area. I would say that is completely correct in so much as we create artificial constructs and perceptions inside our mind to justify our selfish behavior. It is all too common in the everyday mundane choices we make. Even here we on the Internet are choosing to spend our time on this medium rather then let us say helping out directly folks in need or some other endeavor which could help others. Someone said Life is about choices, so we should all be aware of the power and pull that selfishness commands. That is why altruism as an ideology is so needed, to counteract our conscious and unconscious inclination to act in "our" own best interests. Instead we have almost the opposite, a society and way of life that encourages transient selfish pleasures and gratifications, selfish individuality over responsibility. So it is no wonder that people have "not" woken up. Perhaps they do not want to. For they comprehend instinctively the psychological rigor and trauma that waking up entails. I speak especially of people in rich countries so inured to comfortable pleasant lives.

[Newfie]

So you are in favor of excluding the immigrants from the EU?

[Newfie]

Ibon,

Excellent post. Reminds me of Bartlett and his table of good and bad.

Personally, the more I age the more I find these dilemmas harder to resolve.

I've come to the comclusion that humanity is simply not capable of avoiding what is befor us. There may come a time when we "wake up" but then again maybe not.

I've stated to see humanity much like a giant meteoroid heading for Earth.

What would you do different today if you knew all life would end Thursday next? Plant a tree?

Rockman asked a similar question on a thread recently.

Maybe we already know the answer, just look around.

[Donetsk]

I'd say you are a man when you stop caring about upholding some pseudo-man image that others want to force upon you, but that rarely happens, hence having a stick and a pair is good enough for a definite identification I think.