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Re: Planned parenthood - evil or do you care?

Postby zoidberg » Thu 20 Aug 2015, 20:28:53

I just hate the whole thing. New video shows a live fetus twitching on the dissection table before being harvested.

I'm not even a religious guy. This is just murder for profit, of defence less babies! I feel like will Ferrell saying am I taking crazy pills doesn't anyone else see this?! I know lots do but I simply don't get the defenders of these people.

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Re: Planned parenthood - evil or do you care?

Postby zoidberg » Thu 20 Aug 2015, 20:30:02

Like they try to get them out alive for better results. They don't kill them first because it ruins the organs. Don't you get it?
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Re: Planned parenthood - evil or do you care?

Postby Outcast_Searcher » Sun 23 Aug 2015, 13:50:50

Planned parenthood is about a woman's right to choices about their reproductive health care.

If there is a valid concern about illegal selling of fetal material, then THAT issue should be addressed. The good work that Planned Parenthood does shouldn't be ignored.

The protesters are just trying to get Planned Parenthood shut down because they don't like abortion -- and think what THEY believe should override a woman's right of choice about her own private reproductive health. (I just saw a Fox News piece on the "National Day of Protest" over Planned Parenthood. The protesters wanted to shut Planned Parenthood down -- not stop the harvesting of the tissue they claim is illegal via the videos the other side says are heavily edited and taken out of context.)

So whatever cog may claim, this is all just an excuse to try to stop abortion, which is legal by the law of the land.

Funny how far right conservatives value freedom about economic issues, but want to suppress freedoms of issues with any "moral" slant which they dislike.
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Re: Planned parenthood - evil or do you care?

Postby Subjectivist » Sun 23 Aug 2015, 16:17:40

Planned Parenthood is a massive corporation whose only interest is making the greatest profit possible by any method they can exploit.
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Re: Planned parenthood - evil or do you care?

Postby PrestonSturges » Sun 23 Aug 2015, 16:58:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'P')lanned Parenthood is a massive corporation whose only interest is making the greatest profit possible by any method they can exploit.


They are a 501c3 nonprofit that has something like two million dollars in revenue, so they seem to be doing a really shit job at that "making the greatest profit possible by any method they can exploit."

Here's their tax return
http://plannedparenthood.org/files/2413 ... losure.pdf
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Re: Planned parenthood - evil or do you care?

Postby Subjectivist » Sun 23 Aug 2015, 17:51:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'P')lanned Parenthood is a massive corporation whose only interest is making the greatest profit possible by any method they can exploit.


They are a 501c3 nonprofit that has something like two million dollars in revenue, so they seem to be doing a really shit job at that "making the greatest profit possible by any method they can exploit."

Here's their tax return
http://plannedparenthood.org/files/2413 ... losure.pdf


The IRS definition of non profit does not mean what you are implying it means. Non profit corporations do not pass money down to share holders, all of their income goes to salaries and benefits of the employees after expenses. The Executives and upper level medical staff in a non profit can make a very good living, take the CEO of Red Cross for example.
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Re: Planned parenthood - evil or do you care?

Postby PrestonSturges » Sun 23 Aug 2015, 17:59:13

Hey, I supplied a link to their IRS Form 990 and if you don't want to look at it, then I've done all I can.
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Re: Planned parenthood - evil or do you care?

Postby Subjectivist » Sun 23 Aug 2015, 18:47:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'H')ey, I supplied a link to their IRS Form 990 and if you don't want to look at it, then I've done all I can.

Fortunately the Baltimore Sun waded through the form so I do not have to do it myself.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Sun's editors opine that taxpayers should fund Planned Parenthood ("The GOP's never-ending war on women," Aug. 4). Here are just a few reasons Planned Parenthood does not deserve these hard-earned taxpayer dollars:

1) Planned Parenthood is the leader in the abortion industry, performing over 327,000 abortions annually.

2) Per recent evidence, Planned Parenthood traffics in baby body parts and may be violating federal law. An investigation is needed.

3) A federal audit found that Planned Parenthood has overbilled for services.

4) In 2013 Planned Parenthood settled a billing fraud suit with Texas for $4.3 million.

5) According to IRS form 990 the annual salary of Planned Parenthood's CEO is close to half a million dollars.

6) Eleven executives with Planned Parenthood have salaries over $200,000. Four have salaries over $300,000, per the 2013 form 990.


7) According to the same form 990, Planned Parenthood has total revenue of over $179,000,000 while total expenses are about $148,000,000. Net assets are over $278,000,000.

Planned Parenthood has more than enough money without coercing donations from taxpayers. If The Sun's editors want to support this organization, they are free to make their donations, however hard-working citizens should not have their tax dollars funneled to this rapacious outfit.

Lisa Basarab, Baltimore

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Re: Planned parenthood - evil or do you care?

Postby PrestonSturges » Sun 23 Aug 2015, 21:04:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'H')ey, I supplied a link to their IRS Form 990 and if you don't want to look at it, then I've done all I can.

Fortunately the Baltimore Sun waded through the form so I do not have to do it myself.


Ummm, no, that's a letter to the editor, not the "Baltimore Sun."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinio ... story.html

Did you come up with that yourself, or is there some source that you use for bullshit? That's not rhetorical question, because I often ask people "Where do you get this stuff? No really, where?" and they refuse to answer.
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Re: Planned parenthood - evil or do you care?

Postby Subjectivist » Sun 23 Aug 2015, 22:39:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'H')ey, I supplied a link to their IRS Form 990 and if you don't want to look at it, then I've done all I can.

Fortunately the Baltimore Sun waded through the form so I do not have to do it myself.


Ummm, no, that's a letter to the editor, not the "Baltimore Sun."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinio ... story.html

Did you come up with that yourself, or is there some source that you use for bullshit? That's not rhetorical question, because I often ask people "Where do you get this stuff? No really, where?" and they refuse to answer.


I googled until I found something that was not a pro life website, sorry it doesn't suit you.
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Postby PrestonSturges » Sun 23 Aug 2015, 23:22:49

Well don't pass that along unless you don't mind looking daffy.
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Re: Planned parenthood - evil or do you care?

Postby Outcast_Searcher » Mon 24 Aug 2015, 00:45:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', '
')I googled until I found something that was not a pro life website, sorry it doesn't suit you.

So great. You trotted out a clearly pro-life letter to the editor, and pretended like it was from the paper itself. That's SO much better. :roll:

The first item (consistent with what I've been saying) that the complaining about Planned Parenthood is mainly conservative pro-lifers hating abortion) is, complaining that Planned Parenthood performs abortions. :shock:

Case closed, if the conservatives could just be honest about it.
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Re: Planned parenthood - evil or do you care?

Postby PrestonSturges » Mon 24 Aug 2015, 02:27:42

On the subject of evil, google words like "watchmen" "atonement" "blood" "abortion" for a glimpse of the dark side of the right to life folks. It's pretty clear that they believe they need to go commit some sort of national blood bath to avenge all those fetuses in the name of Christ. Crazier than shithouse rats, they are.
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Re: Planned parenthood - evil or do you care?

Postby Cog » Mon 24 Aug 2015, 02:56:22

I have yet to meet a single pro-life person who wants to kill people to stop abortion. I do know they exist. There are fringes in every single movement. But they are the exception and not the rule. What I do meet are people who encourage adoption, encourage abstinence, and encourage birth control.

I do find it sort of amusing that pro abortion folks encourages and supports abortion in the black communities. Almost seems like a bit of racism going on. A lot of abortion clinics are in the inner city. Wonder why that is?
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Re: Planned parenthood - evil or do you care?

Postby PrestonSturges » Mon 24 Aug 2015, 14:08:37

On the anti-abortion side we are into the third generation post RoevWade of people that have grown up being told that they are fighting a holy war against Satan's baby killing demon-nazis.

.....aaaand it looks like we are due for Cog's weekly testimonial about how much he loves black people.
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Re: Planned parenthood - evil or do you care?

Postby Cog » Mon 24 Aug 2015, 16:23:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'O')n the anti-abortion side we are into the third generation post RoevWade of people that have grown up being told that they are fighting a holy war against Satan's baby killing demon-nazis.

.....aaaand it looks like we are due for Cog's weekly testimonial about how much he loves black people.


I love everyone. Especially black people who have been so woefully misused by the Democrat party.
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Postby onlooker » Mon 24 Aug 2015, 18:37:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', '
')I googled until I found something that was not a pro life website, sorry it doesn't suit you.

So great. You trotted out a clearly pro-life letter to the editor, and pretended like it was from the paper itself. That's SO much better. :roll:

The first item (consistent with what I've been saying) that the complaining about Planned Parenthood is mainly conservative pro-lifers hating abortion) is, complaining that Planned Parenthood performs abortions. :shock:
Case closed, if the conservatives could just be honest about it.

So true what Outcast say. I for one feel what can be wrong with wanting to educate people about having families and about risks of pregnancy and such. Maybe if we did more educating we would have less young unwed mothers contemplating abortion!
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Re: Planned parenthood - evil or do you care?

Postby Subjectivist » Mon 24 Aug 2015, 19:23:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('onlooker', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', '
')I googled until I found something that was not a pro life website, sorry it doesn't suit you.

So great. You trotted out a clearly pro-life letter to the editor, and pretended like it was from the paper itself. That's SO much better. :roll:

The first item (consistent with what I've been saying) that the complaining about Planned Parenthood is mainly conservative pro-lifers hating abortion) is, complaining that Planned Parenthood performs abortions. :shock:
Case closed, if the conservatives could just be honest about it.

So true what Outcast say. I for one feel what can be wrong with wanting to educate people about having families and about risks of pregnancy and such. Maybe if we did more educating we would have less young unwed mothers contemplating abortion!


You fellows act as if PPH is the only game in town. The only reason they dominate is they have the political clout to get subsidies of taxpayer funding. If they went out of business next week only a naive fool would expect none of their competitors to step up and take over their market share.
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Re: Planned parenthood - evil or do you care?

Postby onlooker » Mon 24 Aug 2015, 19:47:02

And what is wrong with that?
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