[Cog]

After 57 years of making mistakes, learning from others, and basically stumbling through life without a guide, I have come up with some things that generally apply. I would appreciate it if you offer your own suggestions on what makes up a man. I do not apologize for the sexist nature of this thread. Deal with it beta-male.

1) When you give your word, you honor it even if doing so harms you financially or otherwise.
2) When you work for someone, you give them your best effort. If you can't or won't, quit.
3) You treat your wife or GF with respect even when you don't feel like it.
4) With your children, you teach them the moral values of honesty, respect, and perseverance.
5)You evaluate and interact with everyone you meet based on the criteria of their actions and not any other superficial criteria.
6) You learn to grill a proper steak and make no excuses for your failure to do so.
7) You apologize when you screw up and don't apologize when you know you are right.
8. You take care of your family no matter what it costs you.
9)Find the humor in ridiculous situations.
10)Live a moral code, whatever it is for you, and do not bend to temptations to break it.

[dinopello]

What does a man do, Walter?

[yeahbut]

1) Crush your enemies
2) See them driven before you
3) Hear the lamentation of the women

Simpler times.

[C8]

[Pops]

I think there are no static moral standards, I think appropriate actions are completely situational and societal.

In my big fat rich life, aside from a couple of very temporary situations, it has been completely fine for me to be nice, empathetic, humble, honest (mostly). I've gotten way more than most people ever have without directly hurting anyone or breaking many rules. In some other life where just getting by is a struggle those things would be luxuries beyond belief. Maybe they are in this one and I'm just too spoiled or stupid to know.

A few things more I aspire too, with varying success:

Be Prepared
Be Skilled
Be Aware

Suck it up
Don't Bitch
Keep Your Temper


Most importantly, find some method to remind yourself of birthdays and especially anniversaries. If you still forget: Be Brave;
They can kill you, but the legalities of eating you are quite a bit dicier.

Oh yeah, one more, Give Credit: ^^David Foster Wallace; Infinite Jest

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'A')fter 57 years of making mistakes, learning from others, and basically stumbling through life without a guide, I have come up with some things that generally apply.

[SeaGypsy]

Cool thread starter Cog, a first here to my recollection on what Aussies call 'blokiness'.
Your OP is awesome I reckon. Pops isn't allowed to agree with you directly as that would break his moral code (lol) but his additions are very cool too. I'm not going to Google poetry ffs or horny bloke pix (lol C8)

A real bloke:

Has a second home in his garage/ shed as we call it. Therein is the gateway to his soul. Unsullied by cantankerous woman energy, an unfettered creative orgy of greasy metal, woodchips, beer, beat box, old bikes, cars, tractors, posters of hot babes smiling at the camera, at least one stolen street sign, a copy of that summons you love showing your mates but the missus don't know about, a fridge, a recliner.
(I can tell how much a man is under his wife's control by spending 3 seconds in his shed)

He will walk calmly away from screaming psychotic women. If his bloke mates carried on like that he would split their lip.

He can engage with law enforcement without evoking the demon.

He can find a way to live with dignity, even in hell.

[careinke]

1. Integrity.
2. Assume responsibility for yourself and your children.
3. Learn to calm a colicky baby. I just learned how to do this with my granddaughter. I wish I had known the technique when my kids were infants. (You Tube "Happiest baby on the block") People will start calling you a baby whisperer.
4. Always strive to regenerate not degenerate the earth.

I like the others too, including T's quote of Heinlen.

[WildRose]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'A')fter 57 years of making mistakes, learning from others, and basically stumbling through life without a guide, I have come up with some things that generally apply. I would appreciate it if you offer your own suggestions on what makes up a man. I do not apologize for the sexist nature of this thread. Deal with it beta-male.

1) When you give your word, you honor it even if doing so harms you financially or otherwise.
2) When you work for someone, you give them your best effort. If you can't or won't, quit.
3) You treat your wife or GF with respect even when you don't feel like it.
4) With your children, you teach them the moral values of honesty, respect, and perseverance.
5)You evaluate and interact with everyone you meet based on the criteria of their actions and not any other superficial criteria.
6) You learn to grill a proper steak and make no excuses for your failure to do so.
7) You apologize when you screw up and don't apologize when you know you are right.
8. You take care of your family no matter what it costs you.
9)Find the humor in ridiculous situations.
10)Live a moral code, whatever it is for you, and do not bend to temptations to break it.

[WildRose]

Sorry, double post.

[WildRose]

SeaGypsy,

I wish you could see "our garage" (really not mine at all). I rarely ever venture into it!

[SeaGypsy]

The way it's meant to be! Equally a woman can be just as blokey or stage 1 role oriented, but she too needs her own space- often a 'sewing room' or the more unisex library- reading room.

The biggest bloke vs sheila war casualties though, way more common than battered spouse syndrome, but perhaps related- is dream killing, vision murder, character sacrifice. Goes both ways sure, but for a bloke to hang on & achieve his big goal in life often ends up being an either or situation, which is a tragedy.

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[ralfy]

Applies to both sexes.

[WildRose]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ralfy', 'A')pplies to both sexes.

[SeaGypsy]

Yep, the more you talk about gender issues, the more you end up talking about human rights, individual rights. (Don't you dare AD)

[PrestonSturges]

As I told my friends son who was 14 at the time:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')s long as you think annoying people is funny, you'll never be a man, no matter how old you are.

[SeaGypsy]

Get a CAT scan & find out!

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'A')s I told my friends son who was 14 at the time:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')s long as you think annoying people is funny, you'll never be a man, no matter how old you are.

[PrestonSturges]

I was just reading Jung's 1923 paper "Psychological Types" where he talks about the introverts and extroverts, and he say the weakness of the extroverts is their ability to take simple concepts, completely mangle their meaning, and then club people over the head with them. If Adam and Eve had been extroverts, they would have torn the branches off the Tree Of Knowledge and used them to club each other.