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Re: American Collective Blindness - Charleston

Unread postby Tanada » Tue 23 Jun 2015, 09:15:49

Sixstrings five of the last six posts on page three of this topic are you posting over and over long repetitive posts. Please try not to answer yourself so much, a totally one sided conversation is a lecture.

You went into a long diatribe about how a car requires license and registration and insurance and blahdy blady blah. Hate to break this to you Six, but teen age kids routinely drive cars with none of those things and car thefts happen with disturbing frequency. Criminals who want to kill a lot of people are capable of doing all sorts of horrid things. The key is to get the criminals out of the picture, not whatever method they happen to use.
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To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
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Re: American Collective Blindness - Charleston

Unread postby Lore » Tue 23 Jun 2015, 09:20:26

It's a combination of all the above. Having access to power gives impetuous to use it.
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Re: American Collective Blindness - Charleston

Unread postby Tanada » Tue 23 Jun 2015, 10:05:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', 'I')t's a combination of all the above. Having access to power gives impetuous to use it.


Then why isn't every driver of an 18 Wheeler hauling gasoline crashing them into skyscrapers and blowing them up? If you want a really gruesome example why isn't President Obama using Nukes on Isis? After all he has access to the ability, why doesn't he have the impetus to use it?

Simple, in both cases a rational human being understands the consequences of those actions far outweigh any potential benefit.
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Re: American Collective Blindness - Charleston

Unread postby Timo » Tue 23 Jun 2015, 10:29:07

I'm sure glad we keep the means of death and destruction away from irrational people.
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Re: American Collective Blindness - Charleston

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Tue 23 Jun 2015, 10:48:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'P')rojection. You have a lot of it. :lol:

That made no sense whatsoever. Maybe a couple more smiley faces would have helped.
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Re: American Collective Blindness - Charleston

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Tue 23 Jun 2015, 11:02:49

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Re: American Collective Blindness - Charleston

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Tue 23 Jun 2015, 12:58:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'P')rojection. You have a lot of it. :lol:

That made no sense whatsoever. Maybe a couple more smiley faces would have helped.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against unpleasant impulses by denying their existence in themselves, while attributing them to others.[1] For example, a person who is rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude.

Cluelessness. Based on your recent argument on this thread with KJ, coupled with this response, you have a lot of that too.

Still confused?
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Re: American Collective Blindness - Charleston

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Tue 23 Jun 2015, 13:28:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'P')rojection. You have a lot of it. :lol:

That made no sense whatsoever. Maybe a couple more smiley faces would have helped.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against unpleasant impulses by denying their existence in themselves, while attributing them to others.[1] For example, a person who is rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude.

Cluelessness. Based on your recent argument on this thread with KJ, coupled with this response, you have a lot of that too.

Still confused?


Yes I know what projection means. Are you geniuses saying that it's actually liberals who have posted tens of millions of words on line about killing their neighbors, and not wingnuts?

Good for you, because you latched onto a random three syllable word commonly used to describe conservatives. Good for you, you're a big boy. It must be awfully tough being The Smartest Guy In The Room. It must get crowded in there with Sarah Palin.

Since you like psychology, there is this:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '&')quot;.... at the low end of the spectrum are those who emotions and intellect are so fused that their lives are dominated by the automatic emotional system. Whatever intellect they have is dominated by the emotional system. These are the people who are less flexible, less adaptable, and more emotionally dependent on those around them ...They inherit a high percentage of all human problems .... (They) live in a feeling-dominated world in which it is impossible to distinguish emotion from fact.. a segment of these emotionally trapped people use random, inconsistent, intellectual-sounding verbalization to explain their plight (Murray Bowen)

The best example is the people that call Obama a "narcissist," because the classic narcissist is the guy that dumps his family (McCain, Trump, Gingrich, Giuliani, John Edwards). See? You just learned something. Get a juice box, you earned it.
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Re: American Collective Blindness - Charleston

Unread postby Beery1 » Tue 23 Jun 2015, 13:48:17

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But it's a lot easier to kill 9 people if you have a gun.
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Re: American Collective Blindness - Charleston

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Tue 23 Jun 2015, 14:12:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'P')rojection. You have a lot of it. :lol:

That made no sense whatsoever. Maybe a couple more smiley faces would have helped.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against unpleasant impulses by denying their existence in themselves, while attributing them to others.[1] For example, a person who is rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude.

Cluelessness. Based on your recent argument on this thread with KJ, coupled with this response, you have a lot of that too.

Still confused?


Yes I know what projection means. Are you geniuses saying that it's actually liberals who have posted tens of millions of words on line about killing their neighbors, and not wingnuts?


...

(I left out the angry diatribe. That seems to me your favorite M.O.)

...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')The best example is the people that call Obama a "narcissist," because the classic narcissist is the guy that dumps his family (McCain, Trump, Gingrich, Giuliani, John Edwards). See? You just learned something. Get a juice box, you earned it.

Your last response showing anger/instability is JUST like the "wingnut" attitudes of those you so clearly hate. You're clearly acting like that which you claim to be so evil, even as you mouth the platitudes of a far left liberal.

If spewing names and hatred toward those you disagree with is all you can do, and it completely blinds you to your acting just like a redneck gun toting bully, then hey, it must be the fault of someone who points out you're projecting, right?

No, I didn't learn anything, since I knew you were very good at spewing useless talking points.
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Re: American Collective Blindness - Charleston

Unread postby Timo » Tue 23 Jun 2015, 14:13:54

Only rational people should be lawfully able to carry rocks. Rocks are essential for a well-regulated militia, necessary to defend this nation from foreign aggressors.

Self-defense is not written into the 2nd Amendment. FYI.
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Re: American Collective Blindness - Charleston

Unread postby KaiserJeep » Tue 23 Jun 2015, 14:22:23

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But it's a lot easier to kill 9 people if you have a gun.


...and even easier to kill 90 people with a car, or 900 people with an F-35 armed with Maverick missiles, or 9 Million with a Nuke.

In every case, from the rock to the nuke, the only thing you actually need is the desire to kill. Man is a reasoning animal, and once you have formed the intent, you will find the means.

I could walk down to a used car dealer, buy an armored Humvee on credit, and drive over people like speed bumps until I had a body count of a few hundred, and then stop for pizza and a beer.

Which took me about 15 seconds to think of. It is a darned good thing that we have so many guns in this country, because everybody's thoughts go immediately in that (relatively harmless) direction when they decide to kill.

Fortunately none of the deranged killers of late have been Engineers used to thinking outside the box, because in the span of writing this message, I thought of three distinct ways to kill hundreds of thousands and perhaps millions of people. Which I will never type into an open forum thread, because of those 10 million Americans with serious mental illnesses that their psychiatrists refuse to add to the afore-mentioned list of dangerous people banned from gun ownership.

You will recall that the only time I can think of when terrorists thought outside the box, they came up with the idea of using jetliners as cruise missiles, crashing into highrise buildings in NYC. I don't think any of them were registered pilots or mental patients, simply murderous b@stards.

I have to say: If the Confederate Battle Flag is banned, it will only be symbolism. It won't prevent anybody from killing anybody else once they have formed the intent to do so.
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Re: American Collective Blindness - Charleston

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Tue 23 Jun 2015, 14:44:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', '
')Fortunately none of the deranged killers of late have been Engineers used to thinking outside the box, because in the span of writing this message, I thought of three distinct ways to kill hundreds of thousands and perhaps millions of people. Which I will never type into an open forum thread, because of those 10 million Americans with serious mental illnesses that their psychiatrists refuse to add to the afore-mentioned list of dangerous people banned from gun ownership.

Sadly, you have outfits like The History Channel (and others) with all sorts of "useful, educational" shows, which do that for you. And as a "bonus", the potential audience is everyone with access to a TV, or the internet for later streaming.

I strongly believe in free speech, but just a LITTLE common sense, like not telling potential terrorists (or psychotics) clever ways to kill people in "place X, where there are generally lots of people", would seem to be "in the public interest". :-x

Oh. I forgot. Today it's all about sales and ad revenue.

So maybe our political leaders will control this? Oh, I forgot. They're too busy spying on our phone calls and maximizing their income from lobbyists that represent things like ad revenue. :roll:

Excuse me. I need to go hide under my bed. :)
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Re: American Collective Blindness - Charleston

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Tue 23 Jun 2015, 14:50:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '
')No, I didn't learn anything, since I knew you were very good at spewing useless talking points.


Where was there a "talking point?" Quoting the book "Family Therapy In Clinical Practice?"

Again, we have someone fantasizing about their ability to control other people. Yes, I just got so upset by you that I burned down my house, or something. Maybe you'd like to tell us about the movie that's playing in your head. What's that fantasy look like?.

It's other people that are angry, not the folks on the Blaze, WND, American Spectator etc who have been talking about the impending "race war" ever since Obama got nominated, not to mention the ones that have been planning for 50 years. Liberals are "angry" and that's why you have to plan to kill them in self defense.

Speaking of talking points, let me help you with yours:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'â')€˜Anger, envy, hatred, rage,
Are in the blood of the Jew,
-Julius Streicher (1938)

Because the topic is racism, it's important to remember that racists love to whine about how "angry" people are, whereas I am pointing out very the very specific and very real behavior of conservatives having online circle jerks about forming death squads. And that is where you get people like Daryll Roof passing himself off as normal.
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Re: American Collective Blindness - Charleston

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Tue 23 Jun 2015, 15:13:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '
')No, I didn't learn anything, since I knew you were very good at spewing useless talking points.


Where was there a "talking point?" Quoting the book "Family Therapy In Clinical Practice?"

Again, we have someone fantasizing about their ability to control other people. Yes, I just got so upset by you that I burned down my house, or something. Maybe you'd like to tell us about the movie that's playing in your head. What's that fantasy look like?.

It's other people that are angry, not the folks on the Blaze, WND, American Spectator etc who have been talking about the impending "race war" ever since Obama got nominated, not to mention the ones that have been planning for 50 years. Liberals are "angry" and that's why you have to plan to kill them in self defense.

Speaking of talking points, let me help you with yours:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'â')€˜Anger, envy, hatred, rage,
Are in the blood of the Jew,
-Julius Streicher (1938)

Because the topic is racism, it's important to remember that racists love to whine about how "angry" people are, whereas I am pointing out very the very specific and very real behavior of conservatives having online circle jerks about forming death squads. And that is where you get people like Daryll Roof passing himself off as normal.

Yes, you never have blathered a left wing talking point. Not even in a random attack on the GOP. Never in this thread or any other. :lol:

Yes, you're not angry. :roll: You're extremely happy. I can tell!

I'm racist since I think you're angry. :?

Everyone else is planning to kill people because YOU keep accusing groups you don't like of planning on killing people. :o (No circular reasoning there!)

You seem as paranoid and delusional toward the GOP as, say, HRC. But that's OK, because after all it is "a vast right wing conspiracy". Fear not. I have better things to do than fanning your delusions, or the fantasies you keep accusing those you disagree with about having.

Please get help before acting on your anger.
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Re: American Collective Blindness - Charleston

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Tue 23 Jun 2015, 15:16:04

Also, since we have some psychology buffs here, I'll point out that saying "You're angry ... you're angry ... you're angry" in order to make someone angry is a classic example of "projective identification" which is one of the symptoms that really defines "borderline personality disorder." In other words, if someone has psychotic traits, they are going to go around saying "You're angry ... you're angry ... you're angry."

Projective identification is also the key tactic that crazy people use to turn every argument into a circular argument.

And now you know.
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Re: American Collective Blindness - Charleston

Unread postby Pops » Tue 23 Jun 2015, 16:00:37

how 'bout we cut the ad homs and go back to the topic, bashing Americans or whatever it was.
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Re: American Collective Blindness - Charleston

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Tue 23 Jun 2015, 16:20:11

Awww, they were all set to spend the next couple years debating whether or not I'm a nice guy.

That's the importance of having a moderated site.
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Re: American Collective Blindness - Charleston

Unread postby Cog » Tue 23 Jun 2015, 16:27:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'A')www, they were all set to spend the next couple years debating whether or not I'm a nice guy.

That's the importance of having a moderated site.


You have ascribed to millions of gun owners the desire to go out and kill black people. Only projection can possibly explain your beliefs. I'm sorry you don't like that but its really the only possible explanation of your thinking and posts.
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Re: American Collective Blindness - Charleston

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Tue 23 Jun 2015, 17:28:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'A')www, they were all set to spend the next couple years debating whether or not I'm a nice guy.

That's the importance of having a moderated site.


You have ascribed to millions of gun owners the desire to go out and kill black people. Only projection can possibly explain your beliefs. I'm sorry you don't like that but its really the only possible explanation of your thinking and posts.


I didn't say anything about gun ownership, and I own about 16 guns ( I just inherited a few, so I'm not sure about the exact number). I get lectured all the time about my "thinking" from various fuckwits, and you acting out the same script as several vegetarians who have been stalking me for years on another site. In fact, I will probably point them to this conversation because I have been telling them for years how much they have in common with the people they think they hate the most.

Seriously, why don't you get back on topic? You know what, when I'm on that other site, I'm always asking the vegetarians "Why don't you stay on topic instead of shitting all over this perfectly nice site?"
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