$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'D')oomerisim is bad. If by doom one means fated, certain, unavoidable death and destruction.
Realism however is completely different from doomerisim. The doomer believes bad things will happen and he is helpless to do anything about it.
The realist believes bad things can happen and tries to be as prepared as possible to deal with those bad things. Additionally he thinks that even if he is not prepared specifically he is at least somewhat prepared mentally for an event that pops his idealized bubble.
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Re: How doomerism is bad for your health
by DesuMaiden » Sun 11 Jan 2015, 21:42:18
Exactly. I'm a realist. I realized that this whole system was going to collapse a few months ago, so I am starting to take the necessary steps to survive this collapse.
Of course, using a computer implies that I'm still connected to the Internet via electricity. The fact that I'm still using electricity might mean I'm not TOTALLY prepared for the upcoming collapse because in the future, electricity might not even be available. But I'm still learning about how to survive this collapse. And what I've learned is that local food production is perhaps the most fundamental key in the survival of the collapse of industrial civilization.
If you are not producing food locally, you will not survive the collapse of industrial civilization. Learn to restore the soil around you without the use of petrochemicals. Restore the soil with your own urine or feces instead. Or just use anything other than petrochemicals to restore the soil. And once you restored the soil, start growing food in the soil ASAP.
Surviving without electricity is also very important, but that will happen later in the survival training. Currently, learning how to grow your own food is the most important thing to be focusing on.
History repeats itself. Just everytime with different characters and players.
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Re: How doomerism is bad for your health
by Pops » Mon 12 Jan 2015, 10:44:46
A little known aspect of realism is it's focus on reality. Reality being defined as:
-the world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you are not producing food locally, you will not survive the collapse of industrial civilization.
-the world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you are not producing food locally, you will not survive the collapse of industrial civilization.
That isn't reality. The necessity to "survive the collapse of industrial civilization" is simply your guess at some future condition.
I think actual realism would dictate that a person be prepared for a variety of future conditions, perhaps including COIS but other scenarios as well, up to and including high tides and green grass, to be acted on as reality dictates.
In other words: prepare for anything, including nothing.
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Re: How doomerism is bad for your health
by Newfie » Mon 12 Jan 2015, 11:24:11
Good one Pops. 
I tend to be somewhat more pessimistic than you I think. You see the slow crash, I see that too but put more weight on dark swans.
None the less, we seem to agree on flexibility as your best hedge against the future. We may be going about it in different ways, but the general idea is the same.
I tend to be somewhat more pessimistic than you I think. You see the slow crash, I see that too but put more weight on dark swans.
None the less, we seem to agree on flexibility as your best hedge against the future. We may be going about it in different ways, but the general idea is the same.
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Re: How doomerism is bad for your health
by Pops » Mon 12 Jan 2015, 11:50:00
Just trying to make myself feel better after selling the pasture where I could at least feed myself fairly easily.
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Re: How doomerism is bad for your health
by DesuMaiden » Mon 12 Jan 2015, 12:19:03
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'A') little known aspect of realism is it's focus on reality. Reality being defined as:
-the world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you are not producing food locally, you will not survive the collapse of industrial civilization.
-the world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you are not producing food locally, you will not survive the collapse of industrial civilization.
That isn't reality. The necessity to "survive the collapse of industrial civilization" is simply your guess at some future condition.
I think actual realism would dictate that a person be prepared for a variety of future conditions, perhaps including COIS but other scenarios as well, up to and including high tides and green grass, to be acted on as reality dictates.
In other words: prepare for anything, including nothing.
The collapse is happening around us. It is only a matter of time before we reach the tipping point, and everything just starts to completely fall apart.
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