by Sixstrings » Mon 05 Jan 2015, 16:37:05
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'Y')ou can think wrong like ennui2, desperately searching for complex economic analysis to distract from simple ecological truths. Or Kaiserjeep ("we are not running out of fossil fuels overnight") who hopes and prays for another 100 years for space technology to work its wonder.
Or be like the persistent players here at peak oil (six, dolan, me) who understand this is the best of time before the worst. The final incline before the peak and decline.
It's nice to be claimed Pstarr, but in fairness I think you're putting words in my mouth there. I don't disagree with you, OR Kaiserjeep or Mos (ennui?).
And what the heck IS the "worst of times" and "the sh*t hits the fan."
A recession is when your neighbor loses his job, a depression is when YOU lose your job. So for Tiki right now, it's already SHTF and "the worst." For you, it may be ten years from now and a layoff (I hope not). For someone else, it could be 20 years from now and a multiple sclerosis diagnoses, and inflation is at 20% and it's already hard to afford food, etc. For yet another person, like a Russian or Venezuelen, then that TSHTF scenario is right now, with inflation at 20% and bad stuff coming.
It's all relative, and at the end of the day at least we all have toilet access whereas half a billion Indians do not. We hope there's time left to build space colonies, maybe Indians just hope there's enough time to build everyone a toilet.
I think I agree with the overall trend, I lean to the doomers, but that doesn't mean I don't want to see the space colonies too.
EDIT: Now to do my devil's advocate. I know I just said it's all relative and at least we have toilets etc., but to be honest I'll just go ahead and say that yeah my own financial situation is not what it used to be years ago.
The economy really is a lot worse, objectively. A lot jobs are still paying right now what they paid 20+ years ago, and prices have doubled and more in that meantime. So all that has an effect, my area used to be a destination spot and now it's filled with poor people. I really do get panhandled half the time, in public. That didn't happen back in like '04, and in the 90s. We didn't have all these street people back then, either.
Now if I moved to say, certain parts of Virginia and someone wanted to hire me for something at a hundred grand a year then voila doom is over and life is great.
It's all relative, in the aggregate though and by the numbers we are a far far poorer nation since the 70s and 80s and early 90s. The numbers show a massive wealth transfer, from the lower 99% to the top 1%.
So yeah, it does suck. My life is different now. Sh*t costs three times what it did "in the old days" but I don't have three times the money, it sucks.
I can't believe how much movies cost, these days.
And something like goofy golfing. I took a date on that, that cost like $40!!!! Just for goofy golf!
Thank God for Dollar Tree, at least I can get all my toiletries and laundry detergent and toothpaste and cleaning stuff and hardware crap and a lot of random things all for a dollar. Then you turn around to go see a move and they want twenty bucks.
